Everyone is crazy, not just NK. In 1965 the pm of japan had meetings with the united states. His goal was to convince them to nuke mainland china... this is the same guy who later won the Nobel peace award... I don't think NK wants to nuke japan. It just wants to be loud.
| im_sneaky said: Everyone is crazy, not just NK. In 1965 the pm of japan had meetings with the united states. His goal was to convince them to nuke mainland china... this is the same guy who later won the Nobel peace award... I don't think NK wants to nuke japan. It just wants to be loud. |
Would you mind sourcing that? Forgive me for being incredulous, that's just a bit...
Well, you know.
Insane.
Obama admin will talk down NK followed by the brass saying he needs to hardline on them. Increased sanctions will follow then China will cut off their food supplies followed by an ouster at the UN. This however will only strengthen the NK hardliners and will lead to more testing/possibly @ or near the DMZ to scare Seoul, China, US, and Japan. Politically, this tells me that the Generals have taken the reins from Kim Jong Il as the leadership of the country.
Retrasado said:
yeah, that's what I'm a little worried about, but he has to realize his country only covers 120,000 km2, and that wouldn't be very difficult for the US to turn into a smoking wasteland (not a very good legacy for the "Great Leader"). And if he nukes japan, I can guarentee there will be a lot more than just the US gunning for them... However, I do agree with hunter that a preemptive strike is not a viable option at this point. But neither should we give even a millimeter on the current sanctions. |
I think he does understand that... the question is though... does he care? I mean if he's dieing... why not fire nukes at Japan? Your country would be destroyed but your dieing anyway. All he cares about his legacy and being remembered... and thre is no surer way of doing so then taking out Japan.
That's why the japanese are so edgy about it.
Khuutra said:
Would you mind sourcing that? Forgive me for being incredulous, that's just a bit... Well, you know. Insane. |
In 1965? I wouldn't call that insane. It's actually par for the times.
As I recall we had a plan to bomb every major russian city and most chinese ones around that time... that Kennedy and many other presidents almost went through on.
It's a good example why NK should be stopped. I mean think what two countries that had everything to lose almost resorted to.
Akvod said:
But isn't the US obligated to defend Japan (Japan isn't a protectorate state, but it's similar), and wouldn't a nuke on Japan probably be concentrated on the US forces in Okinawa, hence being an attack on the US? Wasn't the war on Iraq based on faulty evidence and a false threat, while a war against North Korea (assuming they actually nuked/bombed) be a war on actual evidence and a real and immediate threat? While I do agree that an invasion should be done with an international force (it's in America's interest, as it lessens their own personal burden), but do you think the US should wait for the UN, or the UN won't quickly sanction it anyway? I don't see North Korea attacking Japan anyway, unless it's controled by a literally isnane leader, who has no self regard for his life, power, or pleasure. I kinda see NK as almost like 3D realms. They just promise to come out with something, and keep receiving funds, but end up not doing anything. They're an attention whore. The missile test was a huge plee for attention when the whole word was focusing on the economic crisis. |
under post war treaty, the United States has 50,000 military personnel in Japan and will defend Japan only in the case of military attack.
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hunter_alien said:
A war allways damages economy in a way or other...
And please people. Common, whats with this Nuclear Bomb fear I hear on every forum I go. Its like back in the '70s. The cold war is over no nation is stupid enough to start a full-blown nuclear war, and I doubt that N Korea will. They wont bomb Japan because of the simple rules of survivor that they are fully aware of. The only nation that ever bombed Japan or used nuclear mass-destruction weapons was the USA. So stop freaking out!!!
Yes, the dictator of Korea might not be the most humanitarian person in the world but AGAIN he is not stupid, and I really doubt that his hatered toward Japan is enough to push him to such dastric measures as using nuclear weaponry... |
while weapons of mass destruction comes in many flavors, it is true the United Stated is the only country to successfully deliver a atomic weapon, it is not true that the United States is the only country to ever try. ill leave it at that.
so there are people out there who, if they feel they have the right codes to launch, will try.
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Kasz216 said:
In 1965? I wouldn't call that insane. It's actually par for the times. As I recall we had a plan to bomb every major russian city and most chinese ones around that time... that Kennedy and many other presidents almost went through on. It's a good example why NK should be stopped. I mean think what two countries that had everything to lose almost resorted to. |
Well, okay, I guess that makes sense. But it's still insane.
Khuutra said:
Well, okay, I guess that makes sense. But it's still insane. |
Oh yeah. Cold war was crazy in general.
Who doesn't like Nukes?
Everybody respects you when you have a Nuke.
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