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mightyERone on 23 May 2009

Oh,  If Nintendos' machine came out with HD at $300 packed with Wii sports HD vs. Microsofts' $300 and $400 and the Elite was the on HD machine built in (no upscale)machines vs Sony's $500 and Uber $600 dollar machines.  YYEESS they would have and still be DOMINATING this gen with the new demograph of players.  "Think" clearly about it,  Understand about it.  Answer your own question.



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Bursche on 23 May 2009

Looks like someone didn't start gaming before this generation.



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Ryudo on 23 May 2009
mightyERone said:

Nintendo's DS system rules this gen without all the HD bells and whistles.  In my house There is a Beautiful Naked Popular Movie Star.  In your house Same Star But she makes wearing Bikinies look "HD" great.  Which do you want? Nuff Said!!!

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melbye on 23 May 2009

They made a console so much more powerful than PS2 and what happened, they ended up last. They release a console that is very unpowered compared to the competition and wins. What do you think



Alterego-X on 23 May 2009

Nintendo catching up in graphics? Unlikely.

 

Nintendo catching up in hardware? It would be hard to do so, because they already have superior hardware.

(Yes, I just referred to the Wagglemote.)

 

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Kasz216 on 23 May 2009

Nintendo will make the most powerful system they can that's fiscally responsible.

So it really depends on if Sony and Microsoft continue to push graphics to inadvisable and dangerous levels from a profit standpoint.



1337 Gamer on 23 May 2009

Personally i could care less. As long as the other two have another graphics war ill b happy. I love amazing graphics and competition brings out the best!!! May the next Gears and Halo and MGS rule the graphical roost



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Smashchu2 on 23 May 2009
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
Smashchu2 said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
That's the wrong question. This is the real one: What will the two others players do with graphics or hardware? Will they follow Nintendo? The answer is probably yes. Nintendo's new strategy works without a shadow of a doubt, so the others are forced to act in a similar way.

It seems clear that graphics have reached a certain point where megaleaps of hardware increases shows less and less difference than before. The differences between this generation and the last were smaller than the one between PS1 to PS2 and those were smaller than the ones between snes to PS1. Isn't that the reason that Nintendo came with the focus on fun and not graphics? That wouldn't have worked well before the wii. There was a staleness creeping in the gaming bussiness. Nintendo saw it, acted after its feeling and struck gold.

Neither company's will not throw much money down a hole when it's not needed. None of the three. The funny thing is that Nintendo doesn't depends on graphics but on color and style. So it possesses a clear advantage over its rivals. The next generation could be very interesting.


They can't lower their graphical power. When they do, the core uses will see them going "casual" and demand they change back. The new market probably wont take to well as Nintendo is dominate in the new market. So, they will be forced to retreat upstream. This is why Sony is doomed becuase their system is too powerful. Some have suggested that Sony could make the PS4 only slightly better, but core users will want Sony to make it even stronger. Sony will have to make the system stronger and stronger to keep up with users demand for powerful consoles. The Playstation line wont last much longer afterwards.


Who's talking about lowering graphics? it's about not upgrading so fast to push the price down. Nintendo upgraded but not so much as their competitors.

The problem for Sony is that they are a hardware pusher. They make hardware platforms in the first place. That's their nature like you said. If they want to live within the new market, they will be forced to have a real gaming division. Not a mere pusher of formats or anything else. Pushing Blu-Ray pretty much sunk the PS3. And that's something they also could do with the PS4. It will be intersting to see how Sony will act. Perhaps they might seperate the gamedivision from the rest, unlike they are doing now. But i doubt it. They couldn't understand the market this generation. It looks unlikely, that they will do so with the next one.

 

Well, let us not forget that many people were upset and joked about the Wii's power. Matt at IGN bitched endlessly about it. Another speaker at a conference (GDC I think it was) called the Wii two Gamecubes tapped together. It would definatly matter to the core users if the system only shows a small upgrade. These users demand huge upgrades to justify the price.

Otherwise, I agree.



sethnintendo on 23 May 2009
1200p|is|FullHD said:
- the gamecbue didnt lose money
- didnt everyone know that gc > ps2 in terms of hardware ? im more surprised by the difference between xbox and GC, i didnt expect that much

please don't start that whole argument again whether the n64 or ps1 was stronger, you can't find a REAL solution, they were just different ( open world vs cinemativ )

@ sethnintendo : they won't miss me but they will miss the money from me and all the other pissed nintendo lovers who will buy furtehr nintendo consoles for 100 € at ebay

How does people buying consoles on ebay help Nintendo besides the first sale to the original buyer.  I think they would rather have everyone buying the consoles from the stores brand new.  It isn't as bad for them I suppose than someone buying all their video games second hand.  Yes, they will miss your money but if they gain way more consumers than lose then they probably aren't too concerned.



1200p|is|FullHD on 23 May 2009
RolStoppable said:
1200p|is|FullHD said:
Sky Render said:
The real question is, will Microsoft or Sony catch up with Nintendo's interface and mass-market appeal innovations?

that's it exactly

 

Nintendo wants : making money with games ===> they stick to weak hardware and innovation / peripherals and see huge profits again, they became a synonym for gaming long ago and now after the Wii, it makes them tons of money

Sony wants   :    take over the living room as a all Sony'fied solution, TV, gaming, computer, music ; playstation brand is meant to help them to become 'the' brand to own. If they acchieve being strongly associated with media in general, all their gambles with PS3 pay of 1000000000 %. let me explain : in germany, hazelnut cream isn't called hazelnut cram, but NUTELLA, which is a brand. so i say : i like nutella on my bread. If sony achieves that people say :' im going to buy a new sony ' instead of :  i buy new media devices, they get unimaginably rich and outrival they toughest rivals in both the music and TV media device market ======> they won't focus on hardware taht strong again, but they will be the peak of technology again. I expect ps4 to consolide devices, it will be an all-in-one solution for music, movies, TV receiver and gaming. that what they always aimed for. ALWAYS

Microsoft wants : avoid sony from threatening their PC and, if possible, create a direct link between windows and the living room. they don't want the same living room dominance as sony is aiming at in the short term, they aim to delay the process to strengthen their operating system, create a strong XBOX brand and consequently be able to become the-all-in one solution in the long run. they can do it now, they have the most money and cant afford to wait until playstation and therefore sony becomes monopolist in the living room. ====> they will do the same as now, outplay sony with costy buying off games and studios, offering similar hardware to a lower price point. but they will do it a bit more the nintendo way, they will pay much attention to the casual, less than nintendo but more than sony

 

I used the term living room too often i think ...

The advantage of Nutella is that the products of the competition taste like crap. Sony isn't in the same favorable position as Ferrero.

Man, dunno how it's behind the Alps, but in my 18 years of living in Germany i have tested at least 6 different types of nutella-imitates, and half of them were clearly better tasting than nutella itself.

and i said sony wants this position IN THE FUTURE

 

@ sethnintendo : you didn't get the sense, the intention is to buy the console used for cheap and NOT help nintendo, but just buy their console cheap to play the beloved franchises ( mario, zelda ) but not caring about nintendo itself anymore. thats what i was pointing out



How can 720p be considered HD when it looks like ugly snow grains on my 22'' screen?