CrazzyMan said: Just name games on x360, that graphically outperform these PS3 games in same genres(if x360 has games in that genre, if not just write "no analog on x360"): Killzone 2 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - Uncharted - LittleBigPlanet - Motorstorm:Pacific Rift - Ratchet and Clank - Resistance 2 - Naruto:UNS - Uncharted 2 - FFXIII or FFXIIIv - God of War 3 - Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma - Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - inFAMOUS - Valkyria Cronicles - Heavenly Sword - Heavy Rain - Trico Project - I even expect some fanboyism(bias in favour of x360), but still it`s interesting to hear answers to my list. Thank you. =) p.s. @ below They had like 4 years and "easy to develop on system" for that...

You missed Lair from the list.

 

@dolemit3, yeah, i was thinking about that game, but since it had too much hate, i decided to not include it.
That list will be more than enough, atleast for me, IF someone WILL respond to it. =))

BrayanA said: haxxiy said: Directx10 and easier-to-use architecture work wonders. DirectX 10???!!!

Yes, the Xbox 360 uses DirectX 10 programming; it's Microsoft's own tool for developing games. DirectX 11 is coming out on the second Service Pack for Vista and it's already included in the Windows 7 Beta and RC and will also be in the final version of Windows 7.

Ultibankai said: That's unfair, @ above poster, at least allow the 360 developers to push the systems limits.

 

LOL, how is it unfair?  360 developers have had more time than PS3 developers to do it..he didnt say you could only use certain 360 games, so I don't see how it's unfair.

P.S.  The Helghan are NOT aliens.  They are humans, albeit now a different species of human because of where they live.  It's no different than a Rott and a Pitbull.

And on that note, if someone compares Killzone 2 and Halo 3, they should be smacked..very hard.

CrazzyMan said: @dolemit3, yeah, i was thinking about that game, but since it had too much hate, i decided to not include it. That list will be more than enough, atleast for me, IF someone WILL respond to it. =))

Just because a game looks "pretty" does not mean it will run flawlessly, CrazzyMan. Lair proved that. Besides, that list is a compilation of all the games that will 'save the PS3,' and most of them haven't. Why? Even if a developer makes a game look as realistic as possible, it may not interest people. The "full potential" that the PS3 needs is the appeal towards everyone, and it doesn't have that quite yet. =)))))))))))))

Xbox 360's Full Potential: A break-down.

Badum-tish!

1) we speak about GRAPHICS in This thread, so stop with your crap.
2) mass appeal - mass market price(299$), PS3 is yet to reach it, then we will speak.
3) also, Lair was a game from a 1st wave of PS3 games, and now we are facing 3rd wave(which likely won`t have those problems) - games like Killzone 2, inFAMOUS, Heavy Rain, Uncharted and other, which will be released on PS3 this year.

Ultibankai said: That's unfair, @ above poster, at least allow the 360 developers to push the systems limits.

The developers that made  Red Faction: Guerilla said that they maxed out the X360 with that game, but not the PS3.

Wiped said: Xbox 360's Full Potential: A break-down. Badum-tish!

hahaha. This actually made me grin.

All I'm going to add to this is the correction of Forza 2's framerate. It's 60 FPS as mentioned by someone else in this thread - but in addition to this, the physics calculation rate is actually 120 Hz. So for every frame being displayed, all the physical calculations being done twice (and there are a TON). The guys and gals at Turn10 also said that they greatly underestimated the 360's power and that's why the graphics are so scaled back.

I'm not arguing that 360 is more powerful or anything. I just don't think either system should be downplayed in terms of "power". They've both got a great collection of great looking and playing games, and now that devs have gotten experience with both things will only get better for all us gamers. :)

I'll try to find the link where Turn10 stated how they underestimated the 360's processing capability and post it when I find it.

bugrimmar said: that "power" is an illusion. the graphical discrepancy between games is all down to the budget of the game and the art style. you can expect the best graphics from gran turismo 5 because yamauchi desires that photo-realistic look and he has the funds from sony to do it (look at that long ass development time). on the other hand, you can't really expect EA to throw away that kind of money on its NFS franchise when they have so many other projects to work with (and they put out a new NFS every year). comparing halo to killzone is like apples and oranges. halo is a sci-fi battle against aliens in lush, colorful worlds with strange aliens and such. killzone is a traditional war shooter set in a black and grey world, featuring humans against humans with red eyes. no real comparison there. comparing uncharted and gears is also apples and oranges. uncharted is first and foremost an adventure game, so that it focuses it's graphical power on the environment and the character models. gears is primarily a shooter, so it focuses it's graphics on special and particle effects, things like blood, explosions, etc. even if this idea that the ps3 is "more powerful" were true, that "extra power" isn't game changing. the difference (if there is any) is so small that it's a meaningless discussion. i actually doubt that there's any "extra power" at all. sony has a long track record of overhyping and underdelivering, and that's what the ps3 is about. again, it's all down to budget and art style that determines graphics. don't buy into the hype.

THANK YOU!!!!!

Again Thank you...I doubt Ripping someone in half and having chunks and body parts flying was what ND had in mind with Uncharted..And their Explosions suck!

This is one of the Smartest Post I have ever read..bugrimmar was able to set the distinction in the compared game and not have to down play or resort to biased remarks......

@ Gilgamesh   
The Halo 3 Campaign runs at 30 fps? I am sure the MP does....
Also Gilga...Killzone 2 Graphically it very polished...But what would you expect from such a long development pipeline?..Also...Killzone 2 has many drawbacks...Such as it's weapons and MP Maps to name a few..and so far it's online community is in a cluster....and a lot of the rooms are just bot rooms...

Uncharted Is probably the best of the Exclusive...but I have played the first hour and 25 mins of the game...I found myself looking at a lot of things in the Background and wondering if the were pre rendered....There have been some discussions on this site about this..But Nothing concrete was provided...