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outlawauron on 13 May 2009
Squilliam said:
I GT5 doesn't have local coop then I would say it was leagues behind Forza. With Sony now, theres no guarentee that their games will do coop which is a total pain, especially with racing games.

I would assume it would be as it's in GT5P.



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Squilliam on 13 May 2009
outlawauron said:
Squilliam said:
I GT5 doesn't have local coop then I would say it was leagues behind Forza. With Sony now, theres no guarentee that their games will do coop which is a total pain, especially with racing games.

I would assume it would be as it's in GT5P.

Thanks, is that 2 or 4 player?

 



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darconi on 13 May 2009
Jo21 said:
yo_john117 said:
Jo21 said:
its is.
GT5 runs a 1080 60fps.
have more cars and the level of detail to each car track and car it's insane.

Its not out yet...And who's to say that forza 3 won't have that?

 

well forza 2 its 720p 30fps.

GT5 It not out too either but prologue already is 1080p 60fps.


Its not true 1080p, its fake so they can get it as a selling point.

outlawauron on 13 May 2009
Squilliam said:
outlawauron said:
Squilliam said:
I GT5 doesn't have local coop then I would say it was leagues behind Forza. With Sony now, theres no guarentee that their games will do coop which is a total pain, especially with racing games.

I would assume it would be as it's in GT5P.

Thanks, is that 2 or 4 player?

2 player.



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tarheel91 on 13 May 2009
yo_john117 said:
tarheel91 said:
yo_john117 said:
tarheel91 said:
yo_john117 said:
tarheel91 said:
yo_john117 said:
tarheel91 said:
yo_john117 said:

I honestly don't know how so many people can say that GT is leagues ahead of forza?  It doesn't make sense.  If your a fan of racing simulators than you should like both, because they basically offer the same thing...one has prettier graphics and one has a few more options.  

So how can anyone in their right mind say that GT is so so much better than forza and that forza just won't do for the GT fanboys.

 

Have you ever 1) driven a car before or 2) driven a car at its limits before?

I don't see what this has to do with anyting but yes and yes

 

If you don't see what it has to do with anything, then you probably haven't.  When I say driven a car at its limits, I mean drive it like you were racing it.  I don't mean doing 30 miles an hour over the speed limit; I don't mean racing your friend at a stop light.  I mean either actually taking it to a track, or driving it so that you heel-toe break as you enter a turn, your tires are squeeling around every corner, and you're constantly right on the edge of losing it.

 

Well if thats what you mean by the limit then no i haven't.  But tell me WTF this has to do with this topic?!?!?!?!

 

Because Forza and GT are both simulators simulating something you've NEVER done.  You're just like the guys who talk crap about Madden when they've never played football.  When it comes to simulating the racing experience, GT does it better than anyone else.  That is the reason you hear people say what they do.  While you may find Forza more enjoyable, that's more an indication of your preferences in terms of arcade vs. simulation than the quality of either game.

 

Um they are both racing sims...sorry to break it to you but they both play the same not a big enough difference to scream one is leagues better than both...

I never said forza was better...i just wanted to know why GT fanboys insist that GT is so freakin better than forza?

Also if you are truly going for realism, GT just won't do...racing sims on the PC are more realistic.   And have you heard of Race Pro??  that game got mostly meh ratings simply because it was so realistic that it isn't accessible to most people.

Lastly I'm goina guess that you and all the other people that hearold GT as the most realistic Racing sim ever have never actually raced in real life either....

 

I have raced before, actually. ;)

And, as I said, the reason people say GT is superior is because it is, objectively, more realistic than Forza, and thus a better simulator.  Whether that makes it a better game or not depends on what you want in a game.  Why do we need to bring PC sims into this.  They're in a whole other league entirely.  They frequently involve investing money into a quality wheel/pedal system (no analog keyboards...), and those can cost several hundred dollars.  It's not a fair comparison.

 

You obviously have never played forza if you think GT is way more realistic...they both handle the same.  how can you tout reasims with GT when you just bounce off the walls in that game without reciecing any damage? Btw i know that Forza doesn't have amazingly realistic  damage, but some damage is better than none.  

Race pro is on the 360   so since your so tuned to realism play that

 

 

I wasn't speaking about GT5 Prologue, specifically.  I was talking about GT in general.  Over the years, GT has always been the best at simulation.  As others have pointed out, it's hardly fair to compare a complete game to a glorified demo.  You're only hurting Forza if you try to argue they're in the same league.  And, honestly, for me, I care much more abound how a car handles than how it reacts to damage.  Having played both, they definitely don't handle the same.

 



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creamtastic on 13 May 2009
darconi said:
Jo21 said:
yo_john117 said:
Jo21 said:
its is.
GT5 runs a 1080 60fps.
have more cars and the level of detail to each car track and car it's insane.

Its not out yet...And who's to say that forza 3 won't have that?

 

well forza 2 its 720p 30fps.

GT5 It not out too either but prologue already is 1080p 60fps.

 

Its not true 1080p, its fake so they can get it as a selling point.

 

 Forza 2 is 60fps.



Onyxmeth on 13 May 2009

I've never noticed a large difference in either series, but at the same time, I'm as clueless as 99% of this thread and both sets of fans are about which has the more realistic driving, so my opinion, and most others are worthless in that way. While I noticed a few people could name one or so reasons to side firmly behind one or the other, I'm sure almost no one could actually go in depth on their points and explain why one is better than the other, because they are completely ignorant to the science behind both titles and what goes into them.

Like say for instance, your point is "one handles better than the other". What do you really know about high performance car handling at 200MPH to say anything on the subject and know what you're saying is correct? The only person here that may have some real life claim to know what he's talking about is tarheel, but I'm fairly sure almost everyone else in this thread is merely speaking taglines and knows very little to nothing about the real life counterpart to these games to give any informed opinion on even something as important as handling.



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richardhutnik on 13 May 2009
Solid_Raiden said:
I have a better question. How could anyone even suggest Forza is close to Gran Turismo?
I even have an answer. They don't own a PS3.

Lets put it this way, I much prefered the "demo" version of Gran Turismo to the full retail version of Forza 2. Each person has the right to his or her own opinion but honestly most of the people who've played both prefer GT. I mostly see people with only xbox's or people who are extremely xbox biased "prefer" Forza. Imagine that. Of course the sony fans prefer GT, but I've noticed most people in the middle prefer GT.

The FULL version of Forza 2 is HALF the price of the "demo" version of GT5 (GT5:P).  I would say, because of this, people have a right to compare the two.

Anyhow, in related comments, Shift is tapping at the window and saying "Hello".  You know, "Need for Speed: Shift" which is made by developers who used to work for SimBin?

 



dahuman on 14 May 2009

hmmm, racing sims, can't feel the pedals shaking, can't smell the tires burning, can't feel the friction or speed and the actual intensity, I just don't know, guys.



disolitude on 14 May 2009

Outrun on xbox live and ridge racer are more fun than both.