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sonicshuffle said:
TruckOSaurus said:
sonicshuffle said:
@dunno and truckOsaurus.

I don't think you guys know that I'm talking about gay christians.

I don't see your point there... I was born and raised Christian so was my boyfriend and pretty much any gay guy I know around here.


If you don't see my point then well. There's nothing more to say.


Ok, if you don't see my point hen I'll say it. If you are a Christian you should be against gay relationships because it says so in the bible. Many Christians would then say where? That answer is about a page back.



 

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axumblade said:
sonicshuffle said:
sonicshuffle said:
TruckOSaurus said:
sonicshuffle said:
@dunno and truckOsaurus.

I don't think you guys know that I'm talking about gay christians.

I don't see your point there... I was born and raised Christian so was my boyfriend and pretty much any gay guy I know around here.


If you don't see my point then well. There's nothing more to say.

Ok, if you don't see my point hen I'll say it. If you are a Christian you should be against gay relationships because it says so in the bible. Many Christians would then say where? That answer is about a page back.

And if you're a Christian then you're not supposed to pass judgment...or at least that's what I've always been taught. Of course, Christians know how to judge better then God does anyways, don't they?

Whoa now. He isn't judging anyone. He's saying that Christians should be against homosexuality as the Bible calls it a sin.

And no, Christians are not supposed to judge others, but that doesn't make any Christian infalliable. Being judgmental is something that the older churches have tons of trouble with.



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axumblade said:
outlawauron said:

Whoa now. He isn't judging anyone. He's saying that Christians should be against homosexuality as the Bible calls it a sin.

And no, Christians are not supposed to judge others, but that doesn't make any Christian infalliable. Being judgmental is something that the older churches have tons of trouble with.

I agree. That statement was a bit much. But I've had to deal with that issue a lot x.o That's why it bothers me. It's not specifically because of him that I get frustrated over the issue. It's moreso that a lot of churches (pretty much every church my mom has ever made me go to) has been all about how it's wrong to be gay and acting as if it were nearly as bad as murder or rape. It's the mentality that gets on my nerves, not so much the individual. I personally don't have an issue with him and I do apologize to you sonicshuffle for making that claim. But at the same time, not every sect of Christianity is against the idea of homosexuals. I know the Episcopalian (however it's spelled) have been very open to homosexuality in comparison to other forms of Christianity (ugh! every baptist church I've been to).

Some churches view it as a mortal sin, while others view it along the lines of everyday stuff. It's a very split issue among the church.

But I'd avoid Baptist/Southern Baptist if you were gay. They can be pretty rough against gays.



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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TruckOSaurus said:
mmnin said:
I'm me. Sexuality is something that I think should only be told to those who need or deserve to know, and no this isn't a confirmation of anything, just my thoughts on sexuality in general.

While I agree that sexuality shoudn't be paraded around. Coming out, declaring you're gay has more to do with identity, being who you are than sexuality.

I don't present myself to people saying "Hi I'm Fred, I'm gay" but I won't lie to someone about who I am. So when asked if I have a girlfriend I say "No, but I have a boyfriend".

 

I would just say no.  wouldn't offer any other info.  If they want to assume then they can assume, that is something that they are going to have to deal with in themselves and it isn't automatically your responsibility to help with that.  Plus it is obvious if they default to girlfriend alone they have some heterosexual preferences in comfortability and probably would be offset by homosexual intervention.  By saying "but I have a boyfriend"  then you are somewhat contesting them and provoking, at least in some degree, a potential confrontation that wasn't asked for.  Not that it shouldn't be had under the right circumstances.  so there is a place for pride in this respect and getting the word out about any person's group so that those who are not of that group can be forced to understand other's differences, this is still not the same as being treated equally.

What you seem to be claiming about coming out though, seems to be more of a personal thing.  Which is key to anyone's development, to understand who they are and what makes them do what they do.  Being proud of who you are is also key.  But part of being proud of who you are is accepting who you are and that is a state that does not require proclaimation to those who do not deserve to know in the first place.  It seems that by approaching those instances with a sense of revealing ones sexuality is still an attempt to accept oneself.  If one is truly accepting him or herself, then they wouldn't feel the need to bring in that level of conversation.  However, if there is another agenda, for instance bettering the other person by exposing them to the existence of homosexuality, given that the moment is right and isn't just a blantant disregard for the other person, then that isn't necessarily an element of being out and proud, it is an effort to extend the other person's comfort boundaries.  Though being "out and proud" is easier to market and for the average populous probably is more effective in establishing exposure, but with it being so unedited, in many cases the activities surrounding it hurt the overall fusion of homosexual existence with the rest of society.




Wow, what a long thread on this topic. Quite an interesting read too (well for the most part anyway).

To be honest, I always thought I was one of the few gay people who loved games so much. Glad I was wrong !

Now I gotta get 2 gaming again



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KingEidilleg said:
Wow, what a long thread on this topic. Quite an interesting read too (well for the most part anyway).

To be honest, I always thought I was one of the few gay people who loved games so much. Glad I was wrong !

Now I gotta get 2 gaming again

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axumblade said:
TruckOSaurus said:
KingEidilleg said:
Wow, what a long thread on this topic. Quite an interesting read too (well for the most part anyway).

To be honest, I always thought I was one of the few gay people who loved games so much. Glad I was wrong !

Now I gotta get 2 gaming again

Welcome to VGChartz!


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Welcome to VGChartz!

Not only did I beat you to it but I beat you by 4 hours! 4 whole HOURS! (yes I'm just saying that to spite you! )



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KingEidilleg said:
Wow, what a long thread on this topic. Quite an interesting read too (well for the most part anyway).

To be honest, I always thought I was one of the few gay people who loved games so much. Glad I was wrong !

Now I gotta get 2 gaming again

I'll take in knowing I'm the first straight person to welcome you to VgChartz! Welcome!



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
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TruckOSaurus said:
axumblade said:
TruckOSaurus said:
KingEidilleg said:
Wow, what a long thread on this topic. Quite an interesting read too (well for the most part anyway).

To be honest, I always thought I was one of the few gay people who loved games so much. Glad I was wrong !

Now I gotta get 2 gaming again

Welcome to VGChartz!


dammit. you beat me to it. Well I'll say it just to spite you!

Welcome to VGChartz!

Not only did I beat you to it but I beat you by 4 hours! 4 whole HOURS! (yes I'm just saying that to spite you! )

And my dirty, weary mind read that as "I'll beat you off for 4 hours"



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@KingEidilleg, welcome to the posting side of vgchartz (well you have registered a long time ago...). I was "lurker" since 2007 but i gradually decided to post more this year, even if i take long times to write half dozen "shitty" phrases.


@everyone, I miss "who is the hottest videogame character?" thread, do you feel the same? I don't know much more characters to post but at least there i posted something with substance ;) (and was not easy to enter offtopic)... that reminds me:

after all we are all "proud" to be gaymers...