There are a million IDEAS. Remember the tech demo using the PSEye to capture drawn objects and use them as tanks and other stuff? The Ideas are there. Anyone can come up with an idea. Most of them are better than your idea above which would look like total crap. But it takes more to actually make the idea into a full game that is enjoyable and people are willing to buy. Innovation generally comes in small steps. It's a gradual change. Every good game comes with some sort of innovation. Each game just keeps building upon it. Just because you don't see giant leaps within every single game doesn't mean there isn't any innovation or ideas out there. 

I bought a PS3 Eye and it is almost not used anywhere...

I do not see big new ideas except LBP.

Just to use this new powerful hardware for improved graphics... it is a waste...

Thanks for my ideas to call them CRAP!!!


You do not need to attack me, since I am PS3 owner, I have 40+ games, but still I am disappointed because I exptected more than just a slightly improved XBOX360...

Laffer said:

To be honest very few games this gen have been different from last gen,on BOTH systems.

I only agree with the lack of support for the ps eye. I made a thread once that quickly dissapeared, you managed to capture more people with your thread because of the expanded complaints. Unprofound complaints but that doesn't matter.

People don't realise that sony practically has it's wimote. The PS eye can do amazing things .. and i too wish they used it for more fully fledged games. I heard of you being able to use your hands instead of the controller in endwars, but i don't know if they ever implemented it.

Can you give examples of games on other consoles you think are innovative?

Yeah, thank god Super Mario Galaxy and Zelda Twilight Princess were such leaps and bounds above all previous iterations (I enjoyed both games, but don't go pretending it's massively inventive). I guess Pokémon 41247 and Mario Tennis 4864123120 were incredibly original too huh?


@ OP: Every console has its "same ol' same ol'". GT5 will be "same ol' racing" but with improvements all around. Same goes for other games. That doesn't mean there is no innovation. Games build, adapt and change based on what they know already.

You will have to look long and hard to find games that created an entirely different genre or atmosphere. That's partly because it's too risky to venture into the unknown and partly because there's a limit to what one can do with a console. There have been plenty of unique games on all consoles. (and I do find it funny that you use World At War as an example for the PS3's lack of innovation, since it's a multiplat :p Sony can't really force other developers to go the innovation-way :p)

I have found this generation easier but already more enjoyable than the previous one tbh. You can find innovation, fun and originality if you look for those. That's not to say that 85% won't be the same ol' same ol' (and if it is still fun, why complain? :))

"After 3 years we have the best available FPS on a console with Killzone2,"

No you don't ...

Sales and Reviews say other shooters are heads above Killzone 2 ... and don't say "oh well reviews and sales mean jack" because there is no other way to judge which is the best.

reviews and sales go some way to telling you what is better.

Alright, I'll bite. Beyond the obvious (the PS3 isn't three years old), the above statement reads like selective blindness to me. Killzone 2 is far from the peak of PS3 gaming or innovation. Indeed, I'd probably use it as an example of lack of innovation -- beyond it's graphics, it is just a damned solid FPS.

I agree, the Eye could be used more. That said, have you played Eye of Judgement? It's a collectible card game on console. That, to me, reeks of innovation. It may not be to your tastes, but isn't that the problem with innovating? Some people may not like the new stuff, or find it too gimmicky. Doesn't change the fact that EoJ, as a single game, is pretty much unique as an experience on consoles.

Pardon? Have you played any sandbox games? Further, what you describe is hardly a new idea, games have been doing what you suggest for a long, long time. As a few examples of titles this gen, consider GTA4, InFAMOUS, Assassin's Creed, and Burnout Paradise; however, trust me, there are many, many more.

Again, this isn't a new idea, it's just a genre you would like to play. However, I will concede that PS3, as of yet, doesn't have a big space simulation game. Then again, that's not exactly much of a surprise given the age of the achine and the relative lack of such titles on consoles.

As for Broderbonds "The Castles of Dr. Creep": I have no idea what that is.

However, this is complete nonsense. Yes, we have FPS are two (or even three), but we also have much more. Beyond the innovations (well, the lift from Japanese arcades) such as EoJ, we have SRPGs presented in a new, innovative way with Valkyria Chronicles. We have photography-safari simulations with Afrika, where you can travel about in balloons, jeeps, on foot or whatever in a massive version of a savannah and the like. We have the gaming awesomness of MGS4. We have dragon flying with Lair. We Extreme Racing with MotorStorm. We have the user-generate joys of LBP. We have awesome air-to-air combat (and much more) with Warhawk. In fact, we have a whole bunch of titles taking new directions, especially when we turn to the PSN. Then things just get cray.

Noby Noby Boy (I challenge you to find any game like this). Flower (again, a unique experience relying on SIXAXIS alone). Pixel Junk Monsters (a new twist on Tower Defence), and Eden (a new twist on platforming). The Last Guy (another genre-mincing game -- kinda like Pac-man on acid). Linger in Shadows (an interactive movie, perhaps?). LocoRoco CocoReccho (an interactive screen saver). SIREN (an episodic game). Super Rub'A'Dub (as another example of a purely SIXAXIS game). EyeCreate (a free video-editing suit for the Eye). Elefunk (an engineering game). PAIN (catapult people into everything for points). Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battlecars (I think the title says it all). I could go on, but I'm getting bored, here.

And I've not even mentioned big games like Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, or Resistance, or Sony favourites such as Everybody's Golf, SingStar, or GT, or major updates such as WipEout HD, SOCOM, or Time Crisis 4, or RPGs such as White Knight Chronicles, Demon's Souls, or Disgaea, or the many other exclusives. And need I move on to multi-plats?

Really, you can attack Sony for many things, but attacking their current spread of games is growing increasingly unwise, especially when you look at what we know is on the horizon (and we only know a small part of the bigger picture).

Oh, and there's Heavenly Sword, and that's awesome; I don't care what anyone else thinks of the game.