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point x on 12 May 2009
Megadude said:
Less then half what the Xbox brand cost MS.

well , the M$ reserves of cash  is  monstrous....$25 bill,. their credit rating is AAA grade,..

 

As are the Sony?



 

 

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Dgc1808 on 12 May 2009

Some number between 2-5 with 9 zeroes following.



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PalmiNio on 12 May 2009
Avarice28 said:
Okay people if you read the report it showed that hardware for the ps3 was down 9% and software sales for the ps3 were up 53% (for the final quarter). On top of that the pure profit they are getting from psp/ps2 was down 23-31% on the hardware side. The loses are not from the gaming side of their business, it is from stuff like sony erikson and sony pictures (last year they had huge profits because of movies like spiderman 3, this year they lost some revenue due to the underperforming quantum of solace). As far as the losing all the profit from the ps2, last I check no one just puts cash in a can and sits on it for 9 years. If that cash was invested it probably quadrupled so I would think that quote about the loses is just bs. If they really lost all that profit would they still be in business? Probably not, so lets stop with this rumor crap until sony tells us what the real loss/profit is for their final quarter.

 

 

The numbers are from Sony Game division ONLY.

The profit made from PS2 life (without the loss in 2001), which also include PS1 profit, in the game division is:

315 billion yen

So yes PS3 has already consumed all those year of glory PS2 sales, and that is without even substracting the profit from PS2 and PSP.

So in the Xbox 1 lifetime MS lost 6 billion dollars on its own
And so far the PS3 has killed the Game divison with 4 billion dollars and that includes the profir from PS2 and PSP.

So the PS3 seems to come close to how much Xbox 1 lost, and it has lost more money per year then Xbox 1 so far. But the difference is that PS3 will eventually make monet, Xbox 1 never made a dollar.



Predictions for 2009:

360: 39-42 PS3: 31-34 Wii: 67-70

Future projection

Wii will hit 100 million before christmas 2010 (made december 2008)

NDS Family will have sold and shipped more then PS2 at the end of 2009 (made january 2009)

TheTruthHurts! on 12 May 2009

Enough........hopefully enough to give them a swift kick in the teeth so next time they dont make the same idiotic mistakes!!



PalmiNio on 12 May 2009

What is realy interesting is 2007:

-$1,988,702,000 loss for Sony and thats with profit from PS2 and PSP

Numbers for 2007 for Xbox 360:
-$2,016,000,000 loss for MS with only the 360 on the market

So PS3 takes the world record as the most expensive console for the producer in a single year. Beating both the most expensive year for both 360 and Xbox.



Predictions for 2009:

360: 39-42 PS3: 31-34 Wii: 67-70

Future projection

Wii will hit 100 million before christmas 2010 (made december 2008)

NDS Family will have sold and shipped more then PS2 at the end of 2009 (made january 2009)

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Bitmap Frogs on 12 May 2009

All their losses so far + what you estimate the psp and ps2 profits were for the period.

Around 4-5 billion?





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TWRoO on 12 May 2009

I made an estimation around Christmas time..... I won't go into details but I took into account what the PS2 should have been capable of, as well as the PSP (which may have been initially sold at a loss but that was before PS3 launch and I think it will have profited slightly during PS3 lifespan.


And from it, I don't believe the PS3 loss can be any less than $5 billion (and counting by the way)
And it is more likely to be somewhere between 6 and 7 billion



Seihyouken on 12 May 2009

Nobody knows. The best we can due is guess and our guesses could be billions off.

Many people seem to be making poor guesses based off of SCE's fiscal results acting as though PS3 hardware is the only thing SCE is losing money on and ignoring the huge amount of money that comes with marketing, game-development for 3 consoles, development costs for making the PSP2/Go!, PSN maintenance fees and many other money sinks.



Bitmap Frogs on 12 May 2009
Seihyouken said:
Nobody knows. The best we can due is guess and our guesses could be billions off.

Many people seem to be making poor guesses based off of SCE's fiscal results acting as though PS3 hardware is the only thing SCE is losing money on and ignoring the huge amount of money that comes with marketing, game-development for 3 consoles, development costs for making the PSP2/Go!, PSN maintenance fees and many other money sinks.

 

Game development, marketing, etc are costs of running their videogame business. You can't shrug those off as "not related". Are you trying to say Killzone 2 is not ps3 related? Etc...

The ps3 and it's related projects have drilled a hole in their finantials, and they know it. You can pretend to ignore it tho - they can't.





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NJ5 on 12 May 2009

I remember TWRoO's analysis and estimate and I think it was pretty good... So as far as I'm concerned I'd go with his numbers.



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