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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
Squall_Leonhart said:
I doubt that the PS4 will be like the Wii of this generation! Sony would be better not making a console at all since that is not what the Playstation brand is all about!

Sony will have come through worse, and with the Yen getting better they should be in a better situation this financial year and also all these losses were made before the restructuring that has taken place in the last few months!

If the PS4 gets made then most likely it will be very much like the wii. Nintendo proved without a doubt that the strategy works. Sony and Microsoft now are forced to act in a similar way. Or they will face a another defeat with the next generation.

 

Just like Nintendo were forced to follow the recipe for the PS2, right? Oh, wait...



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I wonder what games made it loose money (just out of a curiosity)



DirtyP2002 said:

When will the financial report be published?

There were hundreds of PS3-fans that claimed, the PS3 would be profitable today. Well the PSP certainly is, same for the PS2, so if the Playstation segment still reports a loss, the PS3 has no chance to get those losses back.

A $100 price cut is a risky game to play in such a condition.

 

I would say a $50 price cut would be risky at this point.  Sony is in an even worse financial situation than I originally thought.  I knew Sony would have a loss today but I honestly thought it would be under $500 million.  I guess those price manufacturing reductions on the PS3 were exagerated.

Not going to rub it in or anything, but what are the Sony fanboys saying about this?  They sure had a lot to say about M$'s "tiny" loss a short while ago didn't they.



"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

Quote by- The Imortal John Wayne, the original BADASS!

 

 

 

NJ5 said:

I don't believe Sony will willingly disband SCE... They could do so unwillingly though, in the event they continue to burn so much cash that they have to reorganize the whole company.

 

 

Last I checked the big cash burner wasn't SCEE.

The Sony-Erickson cellphone joing venture is where Sony has been loosing the most cash these last years...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

DirtyP2002 said:

When will the financial report be published?

There were hundreds of PS3-fans that claimed, the PS3 would be profitable today. Well the PSP certainly is, same for the PS2, so if the Playstation segment still reports a loss, the PS3 has no chance to get those losses back.

A $100 price cut is a risky game to play in such a condition.

hundreds eh? names or it didn't happen. Some of you have the habit of putting things into people's mouths in order to make arguments. It's even funnier that you "took the word" of those hundred fans you mentioned instead of waiting for official reports from sony.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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damndl0ser said:
DirtyP2002 said:

When will the financial report be published?

There were hundreds of PS3-fans that claimed, the PS3 would be profitable today. Well the PSP certainly is, same for the PS2, so if the Playstation segment still reports a loss, the PS3 has no chance to get those losses back.

A $100 price cut is a risky game to play in such a condition.

 

I would say a $50 price cut would be risky at this point.  Sony is in an even worse financial situation than I originally thought.  I knew Sony would have a loss today but I honestly thought it would be under $500 million.  I guess those price manufacturing reductions on the PS3 were exagerated.

Not going to rub it in or anything, but what are the Sony fanboys saying about this?  They sure had a lot to say about M$'s "tiny" loss a short while ago didn't they.

 

you love the internet fanboy wars don't you? well, I'm a sony fan and I'm weeping profusely right now. I think I might end my life now because sony lost too much money. Is that good enough?



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Pristine20 said:
disolitude said:
Pristine20 said:
disolitude said:
Somewhere out there a blue hedgehog is laughing his ass off.

 

not another sega lamentation...I guess it's impossible to see that sega killed sega just like sony is close to doing to itself. Neither of these companies fell because of competition. I give up on you guys though....can't keep saying the same thing over and over again.

While sega did plenty of damage themselves...Dreamcast was essentially killed by PS2 hype. No one can deny that. I am not blaming sony for doing this, but I find it funny that the same strategy that worked last gen (bundling DVD with console) is screwing them in the rear this gen... hence why blue hedgehog is laughing.

I don't hate Sony myself...jsut find it funny thats all. Did you know that many people from Sega moved on to Sony aftewards?  Did you know that the guy that made sonic the hedgehog works for Naughy Dog and worked as a gmae designer on such games as Jak 2 and 3 and Uncharted?

 

You really believe that? It's sounding like a religious belief among you guys and if that's the case I will cease to waste my time typing. Do people really believe that hype makes up a great portion of the success of anything? Hype is just a product of corporate gloating...nothing more. Sure sony said ps2 was a supercomputer built to save the world but it was pretty obvious when the launch titles came out that that wasn't the case. Why did it go on to sell 140 mil? Didn't sony tell all those lies? Answer: with the exception of a few strange individuals, no one cares what sony said. People buy what system has the games they want to play that they can afford and that was the ps2 last gen.

If sega hadn't already duped consumers with all their bogus add-ins and outs and their short-lived console cycles, they'd have done better. that kind of behavior is more damaging thhan some stupid PR rant. This is also part  of the reason why sony is bleeding this gen out because there'll be no next-gen for them if they don't finish this one.

It's good to see the sonic guy found a new job. No wonder every sonic game has sucked since.

The thing is, sega lost 300-400 million dollar 2 years on a row and were almost completely out of business.

Sony and Microsoft have huge amounts to burn for these consoles and you can't deny that didn't have an impact on a smaller competitor like sega. Hell even Nintendo was feeling the burn before the Wii...

Also, Saturn destroyed N64 in Japan where it had proper support...your previous statement that people would not have bought the saturn if there was no PS1 is completely unfounded. Saturn needed 1 game called Final Fantasy to be on its system and sega would still be making hardware today...

 



Ail said:
NJ5 said:

I don't believe Sony will willingly disband SCE... They could do so unwillingly though, in the event they continue to burn so much cash that they have to reorganize the whole company.

 

 

Last I checked the big cash burner wasn't SCEE.

The Sony-Erickson cellphone joing venture is where Sony has been loosing the most cash these last years...

$3 Billion loss and counting and SCE isn't the big cash burner. Interesting.

 



Pristine20 said:
damndl0ser said:
DirtyP2002 said:

When will the financial report be published?

There were hundreds of PS3-fans that claimed, the PS3 would be profitable today. Well the PSP certainly is, same for the PS2, so if the Playstation segment still reports a loss, the PS3 has no chance to get those losses back.

A $100 price cut is a risky game to play in such a condition.

 

I would say a $50 price cut would be risky at this point.  Sony is in an even worse financial situation than I originally thought.  I knew Sony would have a loss today but I honestly thought it would be under $500 million.  I guess those price manufacturing reductions on the PS3 were exagerated.

Not going to rub it in or anything, but what are the Sony fanboys saying about this?  They sure had a lot to say about M$'s "tiny" loss a short while ago didn't they.

 

you love the internet fanboy wars don't you? well, I'm a sony fan and I'm weeping profusely right now. I think I might end my life now because sony lost too much money. Is that good enough?

 

I must or I wouldn't continually come back here.

 

And if you decide to end your life today, please do it quickly.  If you don't you may change your mind :P



"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

Quote by- The Imortal John Wayne, the original BADASS!

 

 

 

damndl0ser said:
Pristine20 said:
damndl0ser said:
DirtyP2002 said:

When will the financial report be published?

There were hundreds of PS3-fans that claimed, the PS3 would be profitable today. Well the PSP certainly is, same for the PS2, so if the Playstation segment still reports a loss, the PS3 has no chance to get those losses back.

A $100 price cut is a risky game to play in such a condition.

 

I would say a $50 price cut would be risky at this point.  Sony is in an even worse financial situation than I originally thought.  I knew Sony would have a loss today but I honestly thought it would be under $500 million.  I guess those price manufacturing reductions on the PS3 were exagerated.

Not going to rub it in or anything, but what are the Sony fanboys saying about this?  They sure had a lot to say about M$'s "tiny" loss a short while ago didn't they.

 

you love the internet fanboy wars don't you? well, I'm a sony fan and I'm weeping profusely right now. I think I might end my life now because sony lost too much money. Is that good enough?

 

I must or I wouldn't continually come back here.

 

And if you decide to end your life today, please do it quickly.  If you don't you may change your mind :P

I just did it but miraculously came back...it's too bad.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler