^ Not really, even if the Xbox 360 wasn't sold in Japan and every Xbox 360 sale became a PS3 sale, the Xbox 360 would still be ahead of the PS3 in the weekly numbers.

The year 2012 will be the time PS3 will be in front of XBox 360 in total console sale install base. The gap between PS3 and XBox 360 would be rapidly closing in America in 2012. The PS3 will continue selling in 2012 and a few more years later when it stops selling in 2016 after its 10 year life ends.

Microsoft has already weakened Sony. They will continue to haunt Sony's ten year plan with the 360's existence. Microsofts doing their job, but I believe Sony has put the nail in the coffin to keep the PS3 valid to the market. If the PS3 fails, there will not be a PS4.

I wouldn't say that, I would just say that it would make the PS4's life a LOT harder. They could still pull something out, the fact that they are in the race means something, because just getting here costs billions.

Once PS3 hits $299.99 we will find out.

That much is true!

I completely disagree. The fact that your title says "the PS3 won't make it past 2012" implies that 360 and Wii will. If those two consoles are still on shelves, the PS3 will be as well. If PS3 is being pulled, its either after or at the same time as 360. So yeah your title is completely off. The numbers that 360 is doing compared to PS3 is nothing compared to what Wii is doing compared to the two. Sony will not pull PS3 off the shelves if 360 is still around.

Thread should be named "the HD twins wont make it past 2012 in America at retail."

The only way the 360 is not going to come in dead last in worldwide sales this generation is a $99 Arcade model being announced at E3. Microsoft's investors are already crying foul at all the money being wasted on the 360, the weakest product in the whole company. The only way they could sustain a $99 price point is to liquidate their remaining units and discontinue the 360. I think that they will not do this and Microsoft's stock value will continue to tank as the current leadership insists on throwing more money at this product.

Squil, reading threads you make is unbearable. You have the worst logic ever.

When you just *post* in someone elses thread, you use logic. You don't sound like a fanboy.

When you do stuff like this, you're just a fanboy. It's annoying=/

Price determines most everything. Its still $400 or have you forgot. Through price cuts alone its got another 3/4 years of shelf life easily.

Then there are the games but this is where Sony decides PS3 fate. As long as they are making games and selling them so will 3rd party's.