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megaman79 on 08 May 2009

They stole Rare and Silicon Knights from Nintendo, whats ur point?



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

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megaman79 on 08 May 2009

MS could steal anything they want, they will steal anything they want regardless of how pathetic and unoriginal they are perceived as. MS Avatars are the one thing that changed my attitude towards them, if they do wiimotes next i won't be surprised. Good luck to them, but capitalism and business sucks ass.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Tyrannical on 08 May 2009

FF Versus multiplatform is too obvious. I think MS had it since last year but wanted to save it for this year.

 

I could see the 360 snagging Diablo 3. Sales of 3-5M wouldn't be hard to beleive.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

S.T.A.G.E. on 08 May 2009

If you're saying Microsoft steals Dodece, then you definitely must admit the blatant 3rd party stealing destruction of Sony the last two gens. They slapped around Sega and Nintendo Simultaneously, because they couldn't outbid them for games. Nintendo wasn't about to try to outbid Sony or conform to CD's before they were ready, but they still welcomed third parties if they wanted to come. Sony ruined Nintendos trust in third party, which is the result of why they became secluded last gen and this gen ignoring third party.



Garamond on 08 May 2009

I don't get how you can steal things from Sony that they never even owned.

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I would say second base though since I'm watching the Dodgers lose right now.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 08 May 2009
megaman79 said:
They stole Rare and Silicon Knights from Nintendo, whats ur point?

 

Whoa buddy, now hold on a sec! Nintendo never purchased Rare (Which they should've). Microsoft did the right thing and acquired Rare, because true developer loyalty is a Rarity. Nintendo lost track of that and paid for it when Sony came along. When Sony joined gaming i called it "The Corporate Era", because gaining titles became less about loyalty (Sega and Nintendos code) and more about who can moneyhat. Its a damn shame what Sony did to Nintendo's faith in third party to begin with. Microsoft didn't steal a thing.



S.T.A.G.E. on 08 May 2009
Garamond said:
I don't get how you can steal things from Sony that they never even owned.

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I would say second base though since I'm watching the Dodgers lose right now.

 

 

When he says steal, he means companies using money to steer devs away from their competitors for a certain title or franchise. Sony may have never owned the bulk of the third party, but they sure moneyhatted their way in the hearts of third party devs. A company like Sony needs a company who is its monitary equal or else it will dominate and destroy the industry from the ground up. Microsoft and Sony are in the gaming industry. This is a sign there will be more moneyhatting all around and more gamers on all sides getting screwed and having to fork out more because they wanted to play the "who has the bigger dick game".



1337 Gamer on 08 May 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
megaman79 said:
They stole Rare and Silicon Knights from Nintendo, whats ur point?

 

Whoa buddy, now hold on a sec! Nintendo never purchased Rare (Which they should've). Microsoft did the right thing and acquired Rare, because true developer loyalty is a Rarity. Nintendo lost track of that and paid for it when Sony came along. When Sony joined gaming i called it "The Corporate Era", because gaining titles became less about loyalty (Sega and Nintendos code) and more about who can moneyhat. Its a damn shame what Sony did to Nintendo's faith in third party to begin with. Microsoft didn't steal a thing.

This!!

 



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megaman79 on 08 May 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
megaman79 said:
They stole Rare and Silicon Knights from Nintendo, whats ur point?

 

Whoa buddy, now hold on a sec! Nintendo never purchased Rare (Which they should've). Microsoft did the right thing and acquired Rare, because true developer loyalty is a Rarity. Nintendo lost track of that and paid for it when Sony came along. When Sony joined gaming i called it "The Corporate Era", because gaining titles became less about loyalty (Sega and Nintendos code) and more about who can moneyhat. Its a damn shame what Sony did to Nintendo's faith in third party to begin with. Microsoft didn't steal a thing.

Well the corporate era f----g sucks. Nintendo arn't making core games because all their developers f---ed off this gen. to other companies, this is directly relatable to either moneyhatting or company aquisitions. This is my opinion.

 



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Deviation59 on 08 May 2009
Dodece said:

 Obviously it helps to blur the lines between the rivals, but one could also suspect its a veiled attack to denegrate the competition.

There's nothing veiled about it. Microsoft has always preferred taking down their competitors to improving their own products. It's been their M.O. from day one.