No.  The people who responded to my points killed the thread.  My completely valid 100% factual points. 

The whole thing should of been a post with no replies to it, but instead people wanted to nitpick a small portion of it... because they want to pretend there are no "group negatives" that can be individual positives in atheism.

I think of atheists simply as people intelligent enough not to be religious. I don't judge them by other means, but then again, I dislike going into express details on groups. People matter, not what they are part of.

Frankly I find it just as scarey when people are *sure* that there is no God (atheists) as those who are sure there is one.

Being agnostic seems to most sensible choice IMHO.  To recognize that as a human its inherrently unknowable for us to determine if there is a god(s) or not.  So its as ridiculous to join a particular religion as it is to declare that there is definitely no god.

So you are basically saying that Ricky Gervais is ridiculous for being Atheist? :/

No human can prove that there is a god or that there is not.  The existence of gods is currently inherently impossible to prove or disprove for us as a species.  Atheists have a similar problem to believers in faiths, they feel a strong urge for a certain level of resolution in their minds.  To Islam its that god is a singular being named Allah.  To most ancient egyptians it was that there were a group of gods serving various functions.  To atheists its the *belief* that there is surely no god at all.

An agnostic is comfortable knowing that we don't have the capacity as a species to properly resolve this issue.  That there may be a god or gods, that they (or it, or him, or her) may be benevolent or manovolent, or that there may be no god(s) at all.

You don't need to prove something doesn't exist. Are you agnostic towards Santa Claus and aliens and bugs that live in your brain and tell you what to do? Jeez, agnostics act like they're the smartest people in the universe and the ONLY rational people. I get more elitist shit from them than from religious people. Attacking both sides on this debate doesn't make you seem that rational.

LOL.  Nice post.  But you can prove these things don't exist.  Aliens, however, are another story.

Some of those things do not fall into a category of what is inherently unknowable to our species at this point in our development.  So you do not need to be agnostic to those things upon which, logic and science can resaonably prove out or disprove.  We can go to the north pole and see there is no home for Santa Claus.  We can use radar to see he does not fly anywhere.  We can use simple math to prove its impossible for him to deliver all the toys in one night, let along carry them. 

We can do xrays and cat scans to show whether there are any foreign objects in a human's skull.

Aliens existing, there are arguments with merit to the possibility that life is supported on other planets in the universe.  So its possible, but not currently prove-able.

But, god?  To say there is none is as much a shot in the dark as saying there is one.  Granted, it less presumptious than what most religions do, which includes naming the god and pretending to know what the god wants of us.  But its still coming to a conclusion with not enough evidence to properly support said conclusion.

I mean no insult to anyone, this is merely my opinion.

I can't speak for all atheists, but for me it's hardly a *belief* that (a) god doesn't exist. The only time I think about the issue at all is pretty much only when reading such threads. God is a non-entity in my life and the only reason to label myself atheist is the existence of religions.

It's pretty hard to tell where the line between a belief of a god's non-existence and lack of belief about their existence lies, but nothing I do or think is based on whether or not a god exists and on my views on the matter.

I've had more existence dilemmas about Santa that about a god. And he might be really arriving from Spain rather than the North Pole.

I think it's hard to even define what the hell a religion is honestly... really "is atheism a religion" is a completly academic question based on various views of what constitutes a religion that has no implication on anything.