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Final-Fan on 05 May 2009
noname2200 said:
The issue I have is that there's absolutely no neat-and-tidy explanation for what happened (from my perspective: I know some folks enjoy both. I even quoted one!) I can't say "the old ones were more mature!" because the plots and characters are just as eye-rolling now as they were then (Gau anyone?). I can't say they take themselves far too seriously nowadays when the SNES ones tried to tackle teen pregnancy and attempted suicide. It can't even be the characters, because I like V, but the game doesn't feature any cast to speak of.I can't say it was a focus on the pretty visuals when IX has so many cutscenes, and glories in doing so.

It ain't the tech, it ain't the themes, it ain't anything I can really put my finger on. Nonetheless, I'd be lying if I didn't admit that something about the newer games generally rings hollow for me. I have to go with Rubang on this one:  I don't begrudge Final Fantasy for "leaving me," I don't begrudge it for changing, and I don't think that the new ones are objectively any worse than the old ones (in fact, sales figures argue that they're objectively better). But I have to say that at the end of the day, the newer ones generally aren't for me anymore. I hope that changes, but if it doesn't life will go on.

The problem with this post (unabridged) is that it's hard get into Internet fights over its contents.  Also, FF6 is the best.



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NoCtiS_NoX on 05 May 2009
Kasz216 said:
pastro243 said:
Darc Requiem said:
Kasz216 said:
Darc Requiem said:
badgenome said:

Oh, good. I'm perfectly normal, then.

But why do I still like the old Final Fantasies?

Couldn' t have said it better myself Badgenome.

 

Well that's the thing too... weren't the SNES protaganists... older?

I mean it seemed that way anyway.

 

Yeah for the most part. In FFIV the whole cast were adults except for three party members and one of those three becomes and adult before the game ends. FFV and FFVI followed similiar trends with it's protagonists as well.

@Deatht0m

I have to send you a friend request after you post.

 

Well, there were no "kids" in FF7 except for yuffie. In FF12 there are young protagonists as penelo and vaan but they even seem young adults or closer to adults than to teens. Also, I cant see the "maturity" behind old FF that the newer ones dont have.

Maybe old gamers feel left out and its the kind of attitude old people have when they say "In my times...blabla", maybe the series has become better and changed and u percieve it as going to hell.

Cloud is like... 18-22 in FF7... as is basically the whole cast outside of Barrett.

Also outside of barrett.  No one in the game has any adult responsibilties or connections what so ever.

If you consider less complicated narritive and a focus on younger, less developed characters a change for the better... all the more power to you.  Your the people square is targeting.

Cloud is 21 as far as I can remember.

Cid might want a word with you.

 



MANUELF on 05 May 2009

I have not played any of the modern Square-Enix games but I´m playing Chrono Trigger and I played FF6 and I though they are amazing.



SRPG on 05 May 2009

Well they have not made a traditional FF game since 2001....



Kos-mos on 05 May 2009
deadt0m said:
Kos-mos said:
Kasz216 said:
griffinA said:
^^^^I think the difference is the tone. The pre-FFVII Final Fantasy games took themselves less seriously while telling a story. These days they play like a cliched series movie.

Maybe the younger generations just perfer cliched movies?  I mean... you could argue that entertainment in general has moved more down that route.

Totally agree with that!

Look at all so-called above 90% video-games; gow, gta iv, halo.

Exceptions: Metal Gear Solid 4.

 

LOL.  Metal Gear Solid is the only series with more and worse cutscenes than post-VI FF games.

 

Amen to that and HALLELUJA. Praise the lord for he knows.

 



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MozBlue on 05 May 2009

As far as the cut scenes go surely it's just matter of your prefered story to game ratio.

And whilst there are games like mass effect that give a lot of story whilst cutting back on the cut scenes they because less dynamic, giving your a chance to participate in the dialog currently slows things down. (Still the only way to have a fully dynamic interactive plot is to have a human GM . But one day someone will find a way to write a story with enough out comes and plot routs that could then use voice recog to let you fully interact with 99% of the story, but it's going to take some form of "holo-suit" system to give you interactivity with big dynamic scenes)

When i'm playing a single player game i like there to be an involved and engaging story and in the past FF has delivered on that.

Also XIII is going back to a more turn based approach to the game play which is a releaf as i've played very little of XII cos I hated the gameply style.



Staude on 05 May 2009
badgenome said:

Oh, good. I'm perfectly normal, then.

But why do I still like the old Final Fantasies?

 

Nostalgia is my guess :p



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