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I really can not wait for E3. Sony has released a ton of information, but that is not even a blimp in the radar of stuff that they will show at E3. Microsoft and Nintendo can not come close to what Sony can cook up, because neither has anywhere near the man power. Remember, Sony could match Microsoft and Nintendo game for game, and still have devs left to create more.

This much I will give to Microsoft. With what little they have, they have done a good job and keeping completely quite about. Their E3 will impress, but Sony is on another level in the industry, and old friends have come back to make a massive differance.

Nintendo has knowhere to go. Wii is was washed up the day it was released, and now I think they have ran out of gimics to sell on. I think this is the end of Wii, and the start of something better.



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No Nintendo doesn't say anything about there games and now mirosoft is coping them now.

 

so since microsoft is being quiet about announcing games their copying nintendo.. haha thats sounds stupid.. what isnt considered copying??



How we forget the lessons of the past. We look at how Nintendo currently handles its announcements, and think to ourselves this is how Nintendo always did this. When in actuality it was a lesson hard won. Look back two generations, and you will see a Nintendo that was fast to announce games two or three years from release. The running gag at the time was the same as today hurry up and wait, and at the time was referred to as the drought.

Which was actually a rather unfair assessment. Nintendo bolted out of the gates, and delivered a stellar half year, but with no pacing, and promises being deferred the console developed a stigma. Much in the way the PS3 developed a stigma this generation. Once you spend a couple years placating consumers who perceive a lack of delivery you learn that it is better to announce your lineup in a timely manner. Pacing is incredibly important.

Sony this generation early on made the same mistake, but for an entirely different reason. Whereas Nintendo sought to stun the gamer community by showing them all their cards. Sony was forced to show almost its entire hand shortly after leaving the gate as a means to save their console. Basically selling their reputation for the gains of a misconception they happily fostered. Sony got slammed for this, and rightly so. Sony is skating on this ice now. Pulling this same stunt twice no matter the reason will only see them heavily reviled, and while some say support is coming back. The games we will see in the next six months had their seeds sewn eighteen months ago when the PS3 was not a pretty picture.

Microsoft is very smart they are not putting themselves in a position to oversell themselves, and this is at the very least a lesson they learned from Nintendo. This is the value of Microsoft scouting which the company did even before it entered the console market. Further more it guards against their weakness. Microsoft does not have the plethora of studios that Sony has nor do they have the established licenses, or even the staff that a Nintendo has. The result is they could sell themselves thin with little exertion. So they need to swing for knockout blows that connect quickly. Which gives a greater perception of great delivery.

These things said I expect the following.

Nintendo will have a more balanced presentation this year, but lets not expect a miracle. The core demographic should see greater care, but Nintendo knows that the super casual crowd is their bread and butter. Further more do not expect anything terribly original. Nintendo still has some fairly popular franchises to plunder. I really think this year you will see the next game in the Zelda series.

Sony I am sorry it is going to be a lean year. Like I mentioned earlier they cannot afford another long sell of games over a year away from delivery. Not unless they want to cement a shiftless reputation with gamers period. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Sony didn't finally start to deliver on the massive online gaming front. The reality is this over two years without delivery could mean they are finally in a position to deliver this profit magnet to market. Somewhere that Microsoft has failed terribly. Perhaps we will finally see those games promised by Sony Online Entertainment, and that my friends is where Sony could see spectacular success. Not to mention the profits that subscription games would bring to the company.

Like I alluded to in my previous statements Microsoft is lean on the first, and second party studios. Which they have had to make up for in third party exclusives. That said Microsoft is alternating yearly in delivery. One year fat while the next year lean. This is going to be a fat year for Microsoft all of their first party studios are delivering. You have Rare, Lionshead, Mistwalker, and Bungie. Not to mention any third party exclusives they have been able to finagle. So I expect nothing less then half a dozen high end first party titles to be announced, and the same number of arcade bombshells. The one thing I expect to be flat is Live developments. Which frankly for the most part went over last year like a lead balloon. The only real bonus was party, installation, and Netflix.

Just my long winded thoughts.



I disagree dodece, Sony has been announcing games left and right, and the games have been releasing left and right.

I will check, but it feels like Sony has the highest 90+ games in the shortest amount of time ratio.
EDIT: It's not, but it's close to one of the highest. It depends on the time frame.

Sony announces the games two years in advance every year. So, every year we get the releases. It's not like there is a two year gap between the games.



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Yeah that or they have nothing to announce. They will probably have some extremely vague details about Mass Effect 2 and something about Halo OSDT.



Could the pre-E3 hyping of Microsoft be nothing more than a sign of who posts from where on many boards.

Let's face it, many boards are in the US or UK where the Xbox 360 has done well. Also, board posters tend to be more technologically-interested than some console users

In other words, the Wii may be the dominant console (in terms of ownership), but most Wii users enjoy their consoles or their lives rather than spend time typing away in forums -- myself exclued.

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@mike
I think it has to do more with the "change the way people see home entertainment" statement issued by MS about E3.

The way I see it. This is not gaming announcements.



well they better be announcing tons stuff come E3 or their are goina be alot of pissed people....also i'd prefer not to see the forums swamped with sony "Ha ha i told you so" threads.



@theprof00

I am not talking about consistency of delivery of games to market, but the marketing of games two years out to sell the console today for most console gamers is tantamount to a cock tease. The reality is this an announcement of a game should see the game arriving within a year. Not two or even three years out. You can make due with a couple exceptions, but the reality is that Sony developed a perception.

You can argue that conception was unfair. That the gaming public has no right to expect a quick delivery of a game that has no attached release date. That said the misconception is there, and Sony knows that misconception is there. That however did not stop them this generation from playing on that misconception. You simply cannot create unreal expectations without dealing with the fallout when they are crushed.

Now if your confused as to what I am saying go back on these very forums, and read the comments about the first holiday season, and what games the Sony loyalists were going to grace the platform. Rational posters would try to curtail their unrealistic ideas, but rarely to any avail. You couldn't convince most of them that they were not going to see Prologue, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, and so forth that year. To them Sony had shown it so it must be coming soon.

These are the exact same misconceptions perpetrated be deluded fans that made it so easy to give the PS3 handles like the delaystation, and Sony was in no hurry whatsoever to correct the flawed logic. You can see why though if the bologna could sell their console then well let the bologna fly. The problem is if your not setting the story straight then its your story. That is what has gotten Sony in hot water. You cannot hide behind technicalities when it comes to public perception.