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Bitmap Frogs said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
kowenicki said:
@grooski

Right, like I thought. I still dont care. I, like others here, WANT exclusives.

Exclusives are good for the future of gaming.

 

The point is that it's good for PS3 getting games (and for PS3 remaining lead platform) and increasingly bad for 360's chances of getting Ubisoft exclusives, unless there's moneyhatting involved.

I agree that exclusives are awesome.  First parties are going to need to make them, though.

 

Euros and dollars aren't worth the same.

Nevermind this little fact disrupt your attempt at scrounging a few ounces of propaganda.

Keep grinding that axe, little boy.

 

 

The hell do your first two lines even mean?

Oh god, don't point out that Ubisoft sales are positive for PS3, Bitmap might call propaganda and and insult you!

Your use of the term "little" toward others just reveals something about you.  I tend to stick more to the substance of the discussion.



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Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

Euros and dollars aren't worth the same.

Nevermind this little fact disrupt your attempt at scrounging a few ounces of propaganda.

Keep grinding that axe, little boy.

 

 

The hell do your first two lines even mean?

Oh god, don't point out that Ubisoft sales are positive for PS3, Bitmap might call propaganda and and insult you!

Your use of the term "little" toward others just reveals something about you.  I tend to stick more to the substance of the discussion.

 

I don't know what's funnier: that you are unaware as to why the difference in currency value would matter or claiming you care about the substance of discussions.

Fortunately enough, Ubi execs know why currency values matter and they are aware they are changing. So keep dreaming about exclusives.





Current-gen game collection uploaded on the profile, full of win and good games; also most of my PC games. Lucasfilm Games/LucasArts 1982-2008 (Requiescat In Pace).

Bitmap Frogs said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

Euros and dollars aren't worth the same.

Nevermind this little fact disrupt your attempt at scrounging a few ounces of propaganda.

Keep grinding that axe, little boy.

 

 

The hell do your first two lines even mean?

Oh god, don't point out that Ubisoft sales are positive for PS3, Bitmap might call propaganda and and insult you!

Your use of the term "little" toward others just reveals something about you.  I tend to stick more to the substance of the discussion.

 

I don't know what's funnier: that you are unaware as to why the difference in currency value would matter or claiming you care about the substance of discussions.

Fortunately enough, Ubi execs know why currency values matter and they are aware they are changing. So keep dreaming about exclusives.

 

Did you read what I wrote about exclusives?  I didn't say the numbers indicated PS3 would be getting Ubi exclusives, only that the numbers were favorable enough that Ubi would want to bring all releases to PS3 (multiplat, in other words). 

So currency varies one vs another...didn't the data simply compare overall revenues, as well?

What I said was that I tend to stick with the substance rather than calling names.  When you then consider your response, your response is what's funny.  And hackneyed, reaching, etc.



When Ubi Makes a sale in US dollars, they receive only .75 Euros, if the Euro is their base currency.

If the dollar were their base currency, a sale in Euros would net them 1.32 dollars per Euro.

Go ahead now, how is this anti-PS3 Bitmap?

 



Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

When Ubi Makes a sale in US dollars, they receive only .75 Euros, if the Euro is their base currency.

If the dollar were their base currency, a sale in Euros would net them 1.32 dollars per Euro.

Go ahead now, how is this anti-PS3 Bitmap?

 

 

You almost got it! Don't worry, next time will be it.

Now, here's more food for thought: which console brings more of each, dollars and euros?

If you get past that one, consider this: if you were calling shots at Ubi, would you bet the fate of your company on currency values?

Ah, almost forgot... for most of FY 2008, Ubi only got around .6€ per 1$.

In a nutshell, going back to your first post: what you are seeing is an artifact due to currency values. Not a solid ground from which to speculate on Ubi's future decisions.





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Bitmap Frogs said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

When Ubi Makes a sale in US dollars, they receive only .75 Euros, if the Euro is their base currency.

If the dollar were their base currency, a sale in Euros would net them 1.32 dollars per Euro.

Go ahead now, how is this anti-PS3 Bitmap?

 

 

You almost got it! Don't worry, next time will be it.

Now, here's more food for thought: which console brings more of each, dollars and euros?

If you get past that one, consider this: if you were calling shots at Ubi, would you bet the fate of your company on currency values?

Ah, almost forgot... for most of FY 2008, Ubi only got around .6€ per 1$.

In a nutshell, going back to your first post: what you are seeing is an artifact due to currency values. Not a solid ground from which to speculate on Ubi's future decisions.

 

Finally you've given some indication of what you were referring to when you were talking about different currencies: that in 08 the rate was an anomaly.  Ok, checking historical charts it seems that's likely to hold true.  However, I think where you err is to think that if the rate is more dollar-favorable going forward than it was in 08, Ubi execs would be "betting the fate of the company" by choosing to make multiplat games (bringing them to PS3, which I contended the data indicated they would probably do going forward).  Even if in 09 360 generates more revenue for Ubi due to exchange rates, the fact that PS3 was quite competitive in 08 (actually just came out on top) is heartening for the prospect of PS3 support.  That's what I was saying: that the data supported the notion of PS3 support.

I agree the 08 results (PS3 win) are an artifact of currency values.  I don't agree that the results, which are strong for PS3 especially considering its lower WW install base, don't support the notion that PS3 will likely get strong support going forward.

Btw, the reason I 'got it' with the last post is because you explicated your contention sufficiently only with your last post.  Contrast this with my consistently clearer statements of my contention, and query why you still misconstrued what I was saying several times.



Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

When Ubi Makes a sale in US dollars, they receive only .75 Euros, if the Euro is their base currency.

If the dollar were their base currency, a sale in Euros would net them 1.32 dollars per Euro.

Go ahead now, how is this anti-PS3 Bitmap?

 

 

You almost got it! Don't worry, next time will be it.

Now, here's more food for thought: which console brings more of each, dollars and euros?

If you get past that one, consider this: if you were calling shots at Ubi, would you bet the fate of your company on currency values?

Ah, almost forgot... for most of FY 2008, Ubi only got around .6€ per 1$.

In a nutshell, going back to your first post: what you are seeing is an artifact due to currency values. Not a solid ground from which to speculate on Ubi's future decisions.

 

Finally you've given some indication of what you were referring to when you were talking about different currencies: that in 08 the rate was an anomaly.  Ok, checking historical charts it seems that's likely to hold true.  However, I think where you err is to think that if the rate is more dollar-favorable going forward than it was in 08, Ubi execs would be "betting the fate of the company" by choosing to make multiplat games (bringing them to PS3, which I contended the data indicated they would probably do going forward).  Even if in 09 360 generates more revenue for Ubi due to exchange rates, the fact that PS3 was quite competitive in 08 (actually just came out on top) is heartening for the prospect of PS3 support.  That's what I was saying: that the data supported the notion of PS3 support.

I agree the 08 results (PS3 win) are an artifact of currency values.  I don't agree that the results, which are strong for PS3 especially considering its lower WW install base, don't support the notion that PS3 will likely get strong support going forward.

Btw, the reason I 'got it' with the last post is because you explicated your contention sufficiently only with your last post.  Contrast this with my consistently clearer statements of my contention, and query why you still misconstrued what I was saying several times.

 

I had to explain the whole shebang since it appears you are unaware about such basic facts =/ 

But hey, it was fun teasing you about it.

The ps3 will get the same support it got last year, but it has nothing to do with the "contaminated" raw revenue numbers and more about tools and engines already in place which means porting costs are lower and the userbase while relatively small, is big enough to justify the porting efforts. This is not news however, it's been true for most of 08.

You should also stop using the term "moneyhat" pejoratively when talking about Microsoft's Xbox strategy. It's a tool Sony extensively used in the past and up to a certain extent it still employs. Before Sony had built a solid first-party team of studios, they moneyhatted what they thought would be relevant IP's. So you either make a thread ranting about Sony moneyhatting or stop complaining about it altogether. 

You can't demonize what Microsoft is doing while Sony did the same without looking like the standard biased gamefaqs fanboy. The fact you use your username and avatar to troll doesn't help, as well.

 





Current-gen game collection uploaded on the profile, full of win and good games; also most of my PC games. Lucasfilm Games/LucasArts 1982-2008 (Requiescat In Pace).

Come on guys, stop ruining the thread. It's all about revenue, not profit.



Nice, a solid performance from Ubisoft on the PS3, like is the case for many other multi-platform developers such as EA.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

Cool. Does this mean they'll make a PS3 exclusive??? I doubt it...



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