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Onimusha12 on 18 September 2007
ckmlb said:
Onimusha do you ever actually like a game? Or do you just shit on everyone else's games?

 If this is seriously your only recourse against someone defemating a game you like then you would do well not to bother responding in the first place. 

The game is short and has no online mode? What the hell are you even trying to kid yourself with here? You can't even defend your game with legitmate intellectual discouse, you just simply respond with, "why ya gotta be a dick dude?" I suppose you would consider me an ass for being dissapointed with LAIR as well.

It's also somewhat ironic to find you, of all people, crying out against the act of "shitting" on other people's games. 



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jimmay on 18 September 2007
rocketpig said:
jimmay said:
rocketpig said:
Here's my take on the game:

http://www.theancientgamer.com/index.php?/site/comments/heavenly_sword/

I don't see sales being huge for this title once people realize how damned short it is. I finished the game in 5 hours and 16 minutes. That's completely unacceptable for a $60 game with no multiplayer or co-op.

The only way you can complete the game in 5 hours and 16 minutes is if you rush through the game. If you rush through the game you are not playing it properly. Going through the game and collecting all the style points took me 13 hours, and im not rubbish at these games, i've completed devil may cry 1 and 2, god of war and ninja gaiden sigma and got a ninja master rating overall which is the best rating you can get.

 

I didn't rush through the game... I saw enemies and killed them, in fact I killed every enemy I saw in the game (other than the massive last level). I only died twice, I might add. You can argue with me all you want but I timed it down to the minute and didn't pad the numbers in any way.

Maybe we play games differently but you can't argue my time. I didn't alter the way I play the game at all to reach that time.

And I'm "not playing the game properly"? Errr... okay. Whatever you say. Maybe you also agreed with Factor 5 when they said everyone was reviewing Lair incorrectly. I beat the game and only died twice, I don't know how much more "properly" I can play the game.


The only people that say they completed the game in 5 hours are the people who rushed through it, if you used a guide, spent the entire game spaming the quick death combos instead of doing huge combos to fill up the style bar, if you never once stopped to admire the gorgeous scenery or skipped the cut scences then yeah you rushed through the game.



FishyJoe on 18 September 2007

Is the profanity necessary, especially from a mod? I'd hit the report button, but it would probably go to the person I'm reporting.

Seriously, there needs to be a code of conduct for the mods because this is getting out of hand. How can we expect people to behave when we have mods that talk about shitting and masturbating to make a point?

 



rocketpig on 18 September 2007
jimmay said:

The only people that say they completed the game in 5 hours are the people who rushed through it, if you used a guide, spent the entire game spaming the quick death combos instead of doing huge combos to fill up the style bar, if you never once stopped to admire the gorgeous scenery or skipped the cut scences then yeah you rushed through the game.


I didn't skip ANY cutscenes nor did I use a guide. Yes, I used the quick death combos; that's why they're there. After all, I'm not going to write up a review of BioShock using only the wrench and then tell people that the game is extremely difficult and will clock in around 40 hours.

I'm sorry that I didn't play the game your way and that you refuse to acknowledge that it's not a very long game. The game is too easy and too short. I shouldn't be able to play a game like that and only die twice on the last boss; that's ridiculous.




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jimmay on 18 September 2007
rocketpig said:
jimmay said:

The only people that say they completed the game in 5 hours are the people who rushed through it, if you used a guide, spent the entire game spaming the quick death combos instead of doing huge combos to fill up the style bar, if you never once stopped to admire the gorgeous scenery or skipped the cut scences then yeah you rushed through the game.


I didn't skip ANY cutscenes nor did I use a guide. Yes, I used the quick death combos; that's why they're there. After all, I'm not going to write up a review of BioShock using only the wrench and then tell people that the game is extremely difficult and will clock in around 40 hours.

I'm sorry that I didn't play the game your way and that you refuse to acknowledge that it's not a very long game. The game is too easy and too short. I shouldn't be able to play a game like that and only die twice on the last boss; that's ridiculous.


Ok using bioshock as an example, i did everything you could in that game getting 1000 out of 1000 achievement points, that took me 18 hours. If i had just rushed through the game doing the minium it would have only taken me 12 hours, so does that mean bioshock is an 18 hour game or a 12 hour game? Heavenly sword is not a short game, it is of average length for a game of this genre, sorry you cant except that.



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Videogirl on 18 September 2007
TheBigFatJ said:
Diomedes1976 said:
the commercials for HS in my country use ingame graphics

Do you have a link to the youtube for the commercial? The commercials in the US just show a CG scene of the main character standing in a desert surrounded by enemies and the camera swirls around her as she performs a few moves and her hair flows magestically. It doesn't really give you a sense for how the game plays, nor does it give you a feel for how the game looks, since it wasn't rendered on the PS3.

This is the one I'm referring to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCWm_SUPjLU


@TheBigFatJ  The in-game footage trailer is this one : http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24950.html



rocketpig on 18 September 2007
jimmay said:

Ok using bioshock as an example, i did everything you could in that game getting 1000 out of 1000 achievement points, that took me 18 hours. If i had just rushed through the game doing the minium it would have only taken me 12 hours, so does that mean bioshock is an 18 hour game or a 12 hour game? Heavenly sword is not a short game, it is of average length for a game of this genre, sorry you cant except that.


You have to try to go middle-of-the-road in a review... You can't promote a game by saying "well, if you do everything in this game, it could last up to 12 hours", because if you did, you would have to do the same for every game. BioShock took me about 12-14 hours to finish at my normal rate of play. Heavenly Sword took me a little over 5 hours at that same rate of play.

I do not understand what is so difficult to understand about this. I didn't rush HS, I just played it. And it lasted a little over 5 hours. You can keep telling me what I did "wrong" in the game but odds are, I probably died fewer times than you did. And if I can get through a game that quickly and die as few times as I did, obviously those power-ups and combos are a big fat waste of time. You can go get them if you want but don't go around telling me how I'm playing the game incorrectly. I listed a fact and that fact is Heavenly Sword took me exactly 5 hours and 16 minutes to finish at my normal rate of play, cutscenes and all. I bet I wasn't actually playing the game for a lick over 4 hours total once you subtract loading times and cutscenes.

And that's too bloody short.

Besides, I don't know what the fuss is here... I gave the game a 8/10. I'm not saying it's a bad game, just that it's too short. If it actually was a bad game, I seriously doubt I would complain about length.




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jimmay on 18 September 2007
rocketpig said:
jimmay said:

Ok using bioshock as an example, i did everything you could in that game getting 1000 out of 1000 achievement points, that took me 18 hours. If i had just rushed through the game doing the minium it would have only taken me 12 hours, so does that mean bioshock is an 18 hour game or a 12 hour game? Heavenly sword is not a short game, it is of average length for a game of this genre, sorry you cant except that.


You have to try to go middle-of-the-road in a review... You can't promote a game by saying "well, if you do everything in this game, it could last up to 12 hours", because if you did, you would have to do the same for every game. BioShock took me about 12-14 hours to finish at my normal rate of play. Heavenly Sword took me a little over 5 hours at that same rate of play.

I do not understand what is so difficult to understand about this. I didn't rush HS, I just played it. And it lasted a little over 5 hours. You can keep telling me what I did "wrong" in the game but odds are, I probably died fewer times than you did. And if I can get through a game that quickly and die as few times as I did, obviously those power-ups and combos are a big fat waste of time. You can go get them if you want but don't go around telling me how I'm playing the game incorrectly. I listed a fact and that fact is Heavenly Sword took me exactly 5 hours and 16 minutes to finish at my normal rate of play, cutscenes and all. I bet I wasn't actually playing the game for a lick over 4 hours total once you subtract loading times and cutscenes.

And that's too bloody short.

Besides, I don't know what the fuss is here... I gave the game a 8/10. I'm not saying it's a bad game, just that it's too short. If it actually was a bad game, I seriously doubt I would complain about length.


What you have to except is just because you completed the game in just over 5 hours doesnt mean that most people will complete the game in 5 hours. In nearly every review i have read people say it takes 7-8 hours to complete. If you go for everything then it can take roughly 12-13 hours. Yes potentially you can complete it in 5 but that means you missed out on doing so much in the game. Just because you didnt intentially go into a game going to rush it doesnt mean in the end you didnt rush through it.



rocketpig on 18 September 2007

Argh, I give up. Whatever. I played HS just like I play every other game.


Besides, a few users on this forum clocked in at six hours, not to mention Penny Arcade. I'm not the only one pulling ridiculous times with this game.



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Arkk on 18 September 2007
jimmay said:
rocketpig said:
jimmay said:

Ok using bioshock as an example, i did everything you could in that game getting 1000 out of 1000 achievement points, that took me 18 hours. If i had just rushed through the game doing the minium it would have only taken me 12 hours, so does that mean bioshock is an 18 hour game or a 12 hour game? Heavenly sword is not a short game, it is of average length for a game of this genre, sorry you cant except that.


You have to try to go middle-of-the-road in a review... You can't promote a game by saying "well, if you do everything in this game, it could last up to 12 hours", because if you did, you would have to do the same for every game. BioShock took me about 12-14 hours to finish at my normal rate of play. Heavenly Sword took me a little over 5 hours at that same rate of play.

I do not understand what is so difficult to understand about this. I didn't rush HS, I just played it. And it lasted a little over 5 hours. You can keep telling me what I did "wrong" in the game but odds are, I probably died fewer times than you did. And if I can get through a game that quickly and die as few times as I did, obviously those power-ups and combos are a big fat waste of time. You can go get them if you want but don't go around telling me how I'm playing the game incorrectly. I listed a fact and that fact is Heavenly Sword took me exactly 5 hours and 16 minutes to finish at my normal rate of play, cutscenes and all. I bet I wasn't actually playing the game for a lick over 4 hours total once you subtract loading times and cutscenes.

And that's too bloody short.

Besides, I don't know what the fuss is here... I gave the game a 8/10. I'm not saying it's a bad game, just that it's too short. If it actually was a bad game, I seriously doubt I would complain about length.


What you have to except is just because you completed the game in just over 5 hours doesnt mean that most people will complete the game in 5 hours. In nearly every review i have read people say it takes 7-8 hours to complete. If you go for everything then it can take roughly 12-13 hours. Yes potentially you can complete it in 5 but that means you missed out on doing so much in the game. Just because you didnt intentially go into a game going to rush it doesnt mean in the end you didnt rush through it.


Acyually, most reviews say that the average gamer can be done with the game within 6 - 7 hours of playtime. If you take out the cutscenes and the load times, you will shave more than 30 mins off I'm sure. One way or the other, whoever is justifying this game as being an average length game shouldn't be. It's short. Live with it.



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