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Sony will not do this, Blu-ray will be fine for many years to come. The costs of Blu-ray will be lower than HVD when it releases to the public. Plus, Dont they already have 400GB Blu-rays? I thought Pioneer had made one.

I cant say that MS wouldnt be interested in this, it would allow them to not have to pay Sony for the Blu-ray optical drive.



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While Sony will have to offer backwards compatibility and should thus have a blu-ray drive, Microsoft will just choose what is most cost effective for them.



 

 

Look how the xbox fanboys are celebrating based on this one article.

Anywyas I agree with WiiStation360, this will be a useless storage medium just to drive up cost, the PS3 would've released for $399 and it would've probably be down to $199-$250 now if it wasn't for Blu Ray drive and all those initial losses.

We have seen extra space does offer an advantage, but enough to justify the costs? I don't think so, Pioneer has said that 400GB Blu Ray discs would play on PS3, let alone PS4 with 8 or 12 reading speeds. We have a handful of games that take 50GB disc, and a handful of games that take 50GB on a disc where you can really see the advantage there.

I expect the PS4 to be Blu Ray 8x or 12x reading speed and the 360 to either be Blu Ray or if they wanna gamble big time, HVD or DD only.



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Yeah, another useless storage medium to drive up future console costs! Hurray!

BD should be much cheap than holographic storage in 2011/2012. BR storage should be up to 100-200GB per disk. Will they seriously need more than that?

One of the main lessons learned this generation is that hardware price matters over features. Unless it is almost as cheap as Blu-Ray at the time of console launch, no one will include it.

Not for movies. Even moving to theater-grade resolution a 200-300GB disc should be enough, since even today a 4k (wavelet compressed) 2 hour movie can fit in about that size. Quite unlikely we'll need much better for a long while.

 



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I see Sony staying with the Blu-ray for the next gen as they lost a lot of money on it this time around. They will want to make some of their money back and that would mean that the next Playstation will probably have a Blu-ray drive in it. And in the future Blu-rays will probably hold up to say like 500 GB. That should be plenty big for games next gen. I just hope that all the consoles will have the same drive as that will make multiplatformers to utilize the actual storage in the discs.




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Forgot to mention supposedly a 1TB BD by 2013 from Pioneer as well.



I think with all the investments that Sony made this gen into the Cell and Blu-ray you can expect to see them make a return next gen so that the PS4 will either be selling at a small loss or a no loss at all. Really I expect the Big three to take a wii approach in a technological aspect. We will be seeing PS3.5's, Xbox 360.5's and Wii.5's next gen.

Price Points

PS4- 299-399
Xbox 720- 299-349
Wii- 249-299.



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on Demand is the future anyway. As long as games like GTA IV or Gears of War2 fit on one DVD, I do not see the need to change the format. In 2012 BluRay will be more than enough.

300GB per disc is insane and nobody needs this. Think about it, my entire game collection could fit on one disc. That is a lot of space wasted and I do not want to pay for that wasted space.



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I don't see this happening in the next-gen for three reasons:

1- Price.
2- No need for much more storage than Blu-Ray offers (giving developers more space is like giving them rope they can hang themselves with).

OK, that was just two reasons because I forgot the third one :P



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i also don't see sony giving up on bluray after all the heartache that it caused. with the lower costs, more disk space and more home penetration - there isn't really any reason for them to change formats.