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yanamaster said:
What's with the superiority complex Tyrannical? Sure that negotiations won't work with terrorists now, but if the US hadn't butted into the middle east all those years ago then todays history would've been vastly different.

 

 I'm sure a long history of European meddeling, colonialism, and the creation of Israel out of Palestine had nothing to do with the troublesome middleast situation of today.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

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Tyrannical said:
yanamaster said:
What's with the superiority complex Tyrannical? Sure that negotiations won't work with terrorists now, but if the US hadn't butted into the middle east all those years ago then todays history would've been vastly different.

 

 I'm sure a long history of European meddeling, colonialism, and the creation of Israel out of Palestine had nothing to do with the troublesome middleast situation of today.

All too much. Doesn't mean the United States is blameless.



 

 

War always brings death, destruction and violence, you can not prevent it.

I am glad Chechen war is in the past, it brought to much problems for my country.

I am from Russia.



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realill said:
War always brings death, destruction and violence, you can not prevent it.

I am glad Chechen war is in the past, it brought to much problems for my country.

I am from Russia.

I do wish the Chechen people were allowed their independence though.

Its highly hypocritical of Russia to complain about Georgia not allowing S.Ossetia and Abkhazia to become nations while violently supressing several parts of their own country.



yanamaster said:
Tyrannical said:

I'm sorry. I guess we didn't make it to Poland in time.

Actually it's not that you didn't make it in time. you just chose not to. and that's a proven historical fact that most people don't talk about out of political correctness. We were basically handed over to Stalin.

Oh and one thing, stay in the Us. We really don't need your personal phobias here.

 

 I know, and it was a horrible thing to hand eastern Europe over to the communists. It was a foolish, foolish, move on FDRs part that set the world up for 40 years of cold war. In fact, we wouldn't have most of the word's problems today if we didn't stop the tanks until we rolled into Moscow.

Which reminds me of a joke I sometimes use in meetings when one side seems too unwilling to compromise.

Listen Stalin, this isn't Yalta. You can't have everything you want.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

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Tyrannical said:
yanamaster said:
Tyrannical said:

I'm sorry. I guess we didn't make it to Poland in time.

Actually it's not that you didn't make it in time. you just chose not to. and that's a proven historical fact that most people don't talk about out of political correctness. We were basically handed over to Stalin.

Oh and one thing, stay in the Us. We really don't need your personal phobias here.

 

 I know, and it was a horrible thing to hand eastern Europe over to the communists. It was a foolish, foolish, move on FDRs part that set the world up for 40 years of cold war. In fact, we wouldn't have most of the word's problems today if we didn't stop the tanks until we rolled into Moscow.

Which reminds me of a joke I sometimes use in meetings when one side seems too unwilling to compromise.

Listen Stalin, this isn't Yalta. You can't have everything you want.

 

With the troops in Europe at the time, it would have been Russia who rolled you over, to be honest.

And for the record the US didn't do shit in WWII except land on a beach and die by the dozens. In fact the germans were pulling troops from the west to station at the eastern front because the last thing they wanted is to have Russia get to Berlin first. Sad part is the US still didn't get there first..... talk about useless....



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I think Tyrannical has the same philosophy that Bill O'Reily does. The more I yell and sound like a complete prick, the more people will understand what I have to say.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson