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I thought this was an interesting comment, although I think it is potentially avoidable depending on how Obama's presidency goes and if the GOP can re-brand itself.  But based on the way things are currently headed demographically and socially, I agree.  I thought it was pretty surprising to hear this from McCain's campaign manager.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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This guy ran the worst camping in recent memory, and blames the loss of his candidate on ideology?

This guy is a moron, and McCain was a moron for choosing him.

That being said, I hope both the GOP and Democratic parties fail. We need one for the people, and not one the crap we have now.



All he says is that republicans are extinct in areas where it is most democratic..... and they lost a lot of ground lately.

That's interesting?



TheRealMafoo said:
This guy ran the worst camping in recent memory, and blames the loss of his candidate on ideology?

This guy is a moron, and McCain was a moron for choosing him.

That being said, I hope both the GOP and Democratic parties fail. We need one for the people, and not one the crap we have now.

I agree, McCain ran a terrible campaign that was completely inappropriate for the kind of election it was likely going to be (and turned out to be).  He was moving towards his base after the primary rather than moving towards the center.  The primary is the time to please your base.  After that, you essentially say, "Fuck 'em.  They will vote for me no matter what I do."

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

TheRealMafoo said:

That being said, I hope both the GOP and Democratic parties fail. We need one for the people, and not one the crap we have now.

From a foreigners perspective, you'd need several viable political alternatives instead of just one or two.



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I would love to see a stronger third party. I think we could use a strong libertarian party. I'd vote for a good libertarian candidate under the right circumstances.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Well I think the first place we need to start are the salaries for these political crooks. Especially locally.
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I think the only true answer is for the Republican party to transform itself into a far more libertarian party.

The crux of the issue is that the Republican party is one of half-assedness, and has been for many years thanks to the retarded 'NeoCon' movement - a movement where they adopted old-school Democratic hawk posturing, and spending, while keeping the conservative ideology of morality.

The Democratic party, at it's core, is populist and one that seeks state-based solutions for life's problems, and sees the other side of the coin concerning government regulations of private practice (more restrictions on business, less on morality).

The Republican response has been tepid at best, and really hasn't defined itself as a unique party, but a mixture of spend-heavy RINOs, right-wing moralists, and many other ideologies - it really has no core value other than 'Lower taxes' - despite the fact it hasn't come with lower spending in the past ~30 years.

Therefore, it needs to become the polar opposite of the Democratic party: A people-first group that empowers individuals to seek the answers to their own problem, rather than begging the government for a handout.

They, however, don't get that. It was obvious with GW's addiction to spending, and little restraint during 6 years of Republican-controlled Congress and Senate that they really had no compass on a real direction to the country: All they cared about was killing terrorists, and had no real domestic agenda. Not a real good long-term plan.

IMO, the Republicans, to become the dominant party need to:

- Focus on a pledge to reduce government spending, and bailouts of everyone that wants one
- Encourage fierce government efficiency and accountability for it's actions, and wasteful spending
- Push for an end to government monopolies for pension plans, and education (vouchers, more competition) through more flexible retirement plans (not forcing all non-government, non-self employed works to one, and only one, retirement plan that is the Social Security mess)
- Go back to a pledge of non-interventionism concerning foreign matters. There was a time that Republicans weren't so much anti-war, as they were against America becoming the only solution to the world's needs.
- Reduce taxes on all Americans and businesses, fix loopholes in taxation (don't let the rich have advantages via loopholes), but do not sacrifice deficit spending to do such
- Encourage state-led solutions for questions of morality, rather than push fix-all solutions that fragment the Republican base. You know, as a Christian, I think it's pretty dumb that we're pushing OUR moral solutions on politicians and away from us being the solution.

Really, the Republicans need to be more like Ron Paul, and less like whomever their hero is. The Democrats are far more principled, and that's whats winning voters to them, even if their solutions aren't the right ones.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Well that was the problem with the Neo-Cons in general. They're really only "at their best" when America has a major enemy to fight.

They've tried to morph "terrorism" into that russia type threat... but no one is really buying it.

It was inevitable they'd come to the right though after the Hawkish democrats started losing out to the Henry A. Wallace type democrats.

It's always funny to see how many times the political parties completly swap ideaolgies with each other.

Who knows.  The way this is going in the next few years the republicans may try to out socialist the democrats.