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matt247 on 24 April 2009

I did get a virus from this site, so it's understandable



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antfromtashkent on 24 April 2009
ksv said:
Apparently they've blocked any gaming related website, starting today. Includes ign.com, gamefaqs.com, wiibrew.org and other urls I've tried. Generally I hate this kind of restriction on the employees freedom, but what can you do, other than quit.

 

 If that happend here .... i would have to kill myself....



ChichiriMuyo on 24 April 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
NJ5 said:
theword said:
It seems most of us use boredom as an excuse to spend company times on personal interest. But responsible employees would find something work related to work on or ask their supervisors to give them assignment during slow times. As a manager of more than 40 employees, this is the work ethics I want to see all my employees have, but seldom find!

Let me put it this way... if people don't waste time reading things on the Internet, they'll spend time daydreaming, taking longer bathroom trips, idling by the watercooler or whatever. Most people have limited focus and energy and they'll always find ways to balance their work time with their resting time.

The argument that employees should be allowed to slack off by reading forums because otherwise they'll just find a different way to slack off is bad one. 

You pay employees for 8 or however many hours of work a day and they give you 8 or however many hours of work a day.  If you have employees that want to give you 6 hours of work and spend 2 hours of work reading forums then you probably need new employees.  With today's economy, there's no shortage of people looking for work either.

Except that those people, should they even be qualified, would do the exact same thing.  Virtually no one is capable of staying focused on their job the long.  I've had dozens of supervisors in my life and not even one of them was able to stay 100% focused for every day they worked.  It's just not realistic to make such demands when even the people who are supposed to set an example can't do it. 

The boss that decides his employees can't look at VGC is probably off to two hour lunches with clients where they spend an hour and a half of the conversation on baseball and drinking cocktails, anyway, slacking off as much or more than the rest of them.

 



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Words Of Wisdom on 24 April 2009
ChichiriMuyo said:

Except that those people, should they even be qualified, would do the exact same thing.  Virtually no one is capable of staying focused on their job the long.  I've had dozens of supervisors in my life and not even one of them was able to stay 100% focused for every day they worked.  It's just not realistic.

I'm sure the "All the other kids are doing it too" excuse worked in 5th grade but it doesn't work everywhere.



ChichiriMuyo on 24 April 2009

Yeah, because human psychology is sooo 5th grade.



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NJ5 on 24 April 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
NJ5 said:
theword said:
It seems most of us use boredom as an excuse to spend company times on personal interest. But responsible employees would find something work related to work on or ask their supervisors to give them assignment during slow times. As a manager of more than 40 employees, this is the work ethics I want to see all my employees have, but seldom find!

Let me put it this way... if people don't waste time reading things on the Internet, they'll spend time daydreaming, taking longer bathroom trips, idling by the watercooler or whatever. Most people have limited focus and energy and they'll always find ways to balance their work time with their resting time.

The argument that employees should be allowed to slack off by reading forums because otherwise they'll just find a different way to slack off is bad one. 

You pay employees for 8 or however many hours of work a day and they give you 8 or however many hours of work a day.  If you have employees that want to give you 6 hours of work and spend 2 hours of work reading forums then you probably need new employees.  With today's economy, there's no shortage of people looking for work either.

I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not saying they "should be allowed to slack off". I'm saying they either do or don't, and the ones that do aren't going to work more because you block one of the ways of slacking off. The only thing that's likely to happen is that they'll be less happy with their job. Micro-managing people to change their habits is very hard.

Incidentally I also believe that the vast majority of employees are not equally productive every day. Do you believe otherwise

 



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gebx on 24 April 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
NJ5 said:
theword said:
It seems most of us use boredom as an excuse to spend company times on personal interest. But responsible employees would find something work related to work on or ask their supervisors to give them assignment during slow times. As a manager of more than 40 employees, this is the work ethics I want to see all my employees have, but seldom find!

Let me put it this way... if people don't waste time reading things on the Internet, they'll spend time daydreaming, taking longer bathroom trips, idling by the watercooler or whatever. Most people have limited focus and energy and they'll always find ways to balance their work time with their resting time.

The argument that employees should be allowed to slack off by reading forums because otherwise they'll just find a different way to slack off is bad one. 

You pay employees for 8 or however many hours of work a day and they give you 8 or however many hours of work a day.  If you have employees that want to give you 6 hours of work and spend 2 hours of work reading forums then you probably need new employees.  With today's economy, there's no shortage of people looking for work either.

 

Dwight Shrute?? Is that you?

 

Are you allowed to go to the bathroom in those 8 hours? What if your coworkers asks you a question thats not work related? Should I ignore them if they ask how my weekend went?

What about smokers? are they allowed their 2-3 smoke breaks a day?



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Words Of Wisdom on 24 April 2009
NJ5 said:

I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not saying they "should be allowed to slack off". I'm saying they either do or don't, and the ones that do aren't going to work more because you block one of the ways of slacking off. The only thing that's likely to happen is that they'll be less happy with their job. Micro-managing people to change their habits is very hard.

Incidentally I also believe that the vast majority of employees are not equally productive every day. Do you believe otherwise

 

Ah, so you're saying if an employee is willing to slack off by reading forums that negating their access will not fix the problem.  That makes much more sense.

I don't think skill between two employees should be an excuse to allow one to slack off if that is where you are going with that question. 

You pay someone for 40 hours of their time a week and they give you not 30, not 35, but 40 hours of their time a week.  It's a very simple and reasonable request.



theword on 24 April 2009

NJ5:  Regarding your thought about why I am reading vgchartz during work time.  I am a US citizen currently working in Vietnam.   It is currently about midnight here. 



ksv on 24 April 2009

Just to be clear, I working a company with tens of thousands of employees, and this policy now applies to every single one of us. This isn't an outcry over not being able to "slack off" at work, it's just the randomness of filtering that annoys me. Besides, I get through it anyway through remote desktoping, so they're not gonna stop me, if I wanna spend a 5 minute break reading vgchartz instead of chatting at the watercooler, that is my choice.