Just throwing my 2 cents in... and wondering aloud...

How many of the 18% choose not to have health care? Young people and such who would rather party than buy insurance for something they take for granted.

Also, I wonder if that is counting the Illegal Aliens in the country... *ponders the question*

Do you have a link to prove that US private healthcare is better than UK private healthcare. The richest 82% of the UK could afford private healthcare if they needed to, but most choose to stick with the NHS because its pretty darn good.

1896 actually, but no one did anythign with it. It was re-discovere in 1928. Basically it was discovered in '28 again, because Flemming had no prior knowledge of Duchesne's discovery.

I also LOVE the way you argue, you give parameters, I meet them, then you start changing them. Still, why is the US 37 and most European Countries above it? I want nice hard answers. Notice the study is from the WHO, and you can't even argue it's biased. You can argue it's from 2000, but if anything Healthcare in the US has gotten worse, not better, since, so that path would be just working against you.

As someone pointed out, government regulation and stuff costs companies a lot. If the government is developing these drugs then we won't need such regulations from the government at all. If something goes wrong, elect someone else in the election! Quite simple really. Also, I doubt the government wouldn't follow its own regulations, leading to much less lawsuits. Also does the government have to pay their legal fees to themselves if they DO get sued by some idiot who didn't read?

Oh no you don't. Young people usually have the healthcare of their parents, especially the ones in ANY type of college. They are dependent until they graduate, so whatever the parents have the student does too. Also I doubt it counts illegals, considering they aren't on the books at all. If you wanna count those then I'm sure it would be higher. The truth is, if you aren't getting covered by your job, chances you can't pay for the insurance yourself. Unless you are in absolutely perfect physical and mental health, as well as everyone else in your family.

You’re kidding me right?

I said 100 years ago. Even by your numbers, it was first discovered 113 years ago. I gave those parameters, because more than 100 years ago was the infancy of medicine. What could be done in your garage back then, doesn’t apply to today’s discovery of medicine.

As for the validity of that list not being argued, it’s been argued extensively in this thread.

Plus, nothing about the UK’s health system implies that free markets can’t make money off of drugs.

Your premise is business and healthcare should never mix.

I am saying if you don’t mix them, millions more people die over the next 100 years then if you do.

@Vlad: Well I wasn't going to get into it further, but since you think I was trying to make a point, instead of just voicing a question...

I could afford health insurance. I choose not to. I might have to rearrange a few bills and cancel a few things, but for the most part, I do not care to have it. The benefits of not having to pay for it now, while I am young and healthy, far outweigh the benefits of having insurance now, when I am young and healthy. I rarely get sick. I don't get injured. I don't see why I need it. I was wondering how many other people are like me, and don't feel the need to get insured.

Also, if I get sick enough to need to see a doctor, I pay for it. Cash or credit. Cheaper that way in the long run.

Usually the politicians cite the Illegals in the number of uninsured as a measure to boost the numbers, so that was why I was asking the question.

PS. One reason I don't want it now, I would rather pay off debt and secure a house first. Once I get a few more things I want, I may purchase a plan myself.

Did you miss the part wehre Flemming discovered it completely independently? I know you can read just fine., dunno about selective reading though....

The arguments have all been countered about the list as well, again in this thread.

My premise is that a lot more people will be saved in the next 100 years if it was the government's job to care for the sick, not some greedy bastards who just want to make money. I don't trust the goevernment in anythign they say, I trust business a hell of a lot less.

I also have yet to see a good counter to the NASA argument and how the government "failed" to do anything about that reasearch. It was taxes that got people to the moon, as pointless as it was to begin with.

http://www.smartmoney.com/spending/deals/buying-private-health-insurance-14819/

America's Health Insurance Plans says the average individual annual premiums from 2006 to 2007 cost $2,613, or $218 a month.

Well I can also assume that everyone is like me and thinks that letting businesses handle our health is the worst idea ever.... Then again I guess not....

I also don't know how they can cite illegals since they are not listed anywhere.

Lol, rediscovery counts as discovery?

If so, fire was just discovered last week (as I am sure someone around the world independently figured it out).

You have an opinion that can’t be changed. It’s pointless to discuss it.