This is where you proved yourself wrong MikeB.  In the UK we have the sales of goods act which is very similar to the laws that govern in the Netherlands on this issue.  Indeed a letter can often get you a replacement product in cases where said product has a history of issues.  In the case of the PS3 which is more reliable than the 360 you as a consumer if you goto court have to prove the product has known systemic manufacturing issues that could cause the failure.  If not you must prove the fault was there when it was manufactured, either way this is not a 3 year warranty if you have to threaten legal action to get a resolution.  If a claim gets to court you still have to put up a very good argument to win if your case is defended, which they do go so far on occasions.  You made the insinuation that the PS3 is covered for 3 years too, it isn't, you were wrong and the best it could be covered is 2 years in any EU country without legal action. 

just give up, MikeB can't be wrong, he is always right.  It's actually pretty funny if you go back to the thread that starcraft posted, then go back to the thread's that NJ5 posted, it is pretty humorous actually.  NJ5 was totally right, but MikeB couldn't understand it.  This might be because MikeB isn't a natural English speaker, but his english is pretty good non the less, but he might lose something in the translation. 

However, for everybody's sake, lets just let MikeB think he is always right so we don't have to listen to him rant. 

dude waar maak jij je druk om jezus zeg...
laat me lekker met me 360 spelen, ik val jou toch ook niet lastig met negatieve sony berichten?
nou dan .. kap nu es met die ongein en gedraag je naar je leeftijd...

(Google translate:)
dude where do you care about Jesus say ...
let me play good with me 360, I fall you still not bother with sony negative messages?
Well then .. es cap now with ongein and your conduct to your age ..

(Kirby translate:)

dude goddamn whats sticking up your ass...
let me enjoy my 360, do i bother you with negative sony messages?
exactly... cut the crap and act to your age

dude waar maak jij je druk om jezus zeg
adress him, then making fun of the topic, curse, make fun again

MikeB said: vaio said: MikeB said: @ vaio If this law exists in the form you are saying then why to retailers sell extended warranty 3 and 5 years if it´s not needed it would be defrauding their costumers and they would be soud for selling something that is worhless since according to you the same thing is covered by law and there would be no need for an extende warranty? For example you can get a brand new replacement (vs refurb) if unrepairable, you'll also have less burden (like having to construct a letter like above in many cases). But as the head of the consumenten authority stated, consumers are often misinformed by the benefits. They are already covered by warranty. If you don't agree with how the laws in the Netherlands work, write a formal complaint to the Dutch Consumer Authority, maybe it will result in some laughs over there. To contact them: http://www.consuwijzer.nl/Ik_wil_advies_over/Elektronica_en_huishoudelijke_apparatuur/Garantie/Basisinformatie/Bijkopen_van_garantie "Soms kunt u bij een product extra garantie kopen. Dit lijkt handig, maar het is meestal niet nodig." Translation: "Some times you can buy extra warranty with a product. This looks handy, but is usually not needed"    So you proved nothing again then this discusion is over untill you show me a link to dutch law that explixit says you guys in the netherlands have a 3 year warranty on electronics and that overides the EU directive, if you can´t then have a nice day.   You haven't been really listening or have you? Consumentenautoriteit, de Nederlandse Mededingingsautoriteit (NMa) and OPTA state: "in Nederland hebt u vaak langer dan twee jaar garantie. Hoe lang u garantie hebt, hangt af van het product dat u koopt." In the Netherlands you often have more than 2 years warranty. How long, depends on the product.

Of course I haven´t been listening there is no sound to text you are supposed to read text not liste to it.

I have been reading and as usual you are avoiding the proof that i have presented and you have also avoided to present a link to prove your point and only write jibberish from nowhere besides your own mind to prove your point wich is false since the first post in this thread and any other you ever have been involved in.

I am waiting for the link to prove you are right untill then I won´t discuss anything with you because i have proven my side by showing you links and you haven´t even given me one link that proves anything you said as truth.

Link first and we will continue to discuss and I am even prepared to acknowledge that I was wrong but not untill you show me a link about Dutch laws about 3 year warranty.

Lawd - there's enough spam in this thread to feed a couple third-world countries.

OT: This is very, very relevant. You can say what you want to, but I have never, ever seen anyone who owns a 360 or Wii bot go to this extreme:

Spent 3 hours at Wal-Mart today. I stoped 11 out of 12 people from getting HD-DVD players. I will be spending a lot of time down thier the rest of this year. It is the best I can do to help the less tech savy not get screwed on this half-step format. One couple I talked too went straight over to the games section and picked up a 40GB PS3. The wife said about HD-DVD "We have purchased Toshiba products for over 10 years and we have never been disipointed in them. I can not believe that they would sell a product that is not of the upmost quality." Two other's went ahead and picked up the 80GB which really shocked me , because that is a lot more than they came in expecting to spend. One of these people was an older man about mid 50's he said "It would really be nice if they posted the differances between these products more. Seeing 30 of those GB things compared to 50 really gives you more of a idea about these products than price and names." The only one I could not stop from buying it was this 27 year old guy that said he already had the 360 HD-DVD drive for his 360 in the living room, and he wanted to get this one for his bedroom.

Overall I think the day went well. I was surprised to see so much traffic towards HDM. It seems this year will see a lot of sales in this spectrum of the market. I am going to do my best to try and make sure that these Walmart shoppers in my area make an informed decision before purchaseing into HDM. Hopefully it will help Blu win and put us on track to a medium that will last for a solid 15 to 20 years.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=262137

That's devotion. And the PS3 crowd has many more folks like that in its ranks. Not flaming, but in the end of the day, for most 360 gamers, we realize life isn't perfect and don't sulk or whine because we don't land a big exclusive or the like. For PS3 fans, the PS crowd is not used to being in 3rd place, and focus on past victories and say 'The PS3 will rebound.' Maybe so, but who honestly cares? It's a piece of plastic that plays HD movies and games.

The 360 is constantly bashed on by PS3 bots over RROD, which, in fact, was fixed with a hardware/motherboard revision, disk scratching (which happens when you flip a 360 when it's playing a game) and other 'boogie man' types of errors. It's not perfect - but does a doggone great job of playing games. And you don't have to get a second job to play HD games.

PS3 fans were the very same ones screaming when folks were posting legit news about Sony's financial woes, how the PS3 was keeping Sony from turning profits, and whining, moaning, crying over the hate. No, that wasn't hate - that was a dose of reality. Some folks don't see the PS3 as being the end-all device you see it as. It's called having an opinion.

Sure, I like the PS3, and will call folks out for bashing it when it doesn't need to be bashed on. I'll do the same for the Wii and 360. But when you have folks hyping every single PS3 exclusive release, it gets old.

360 bots defending? Why should they defend it?

Yes. You are wrong.