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“Hello, I’m the editor of a small multiplatform video game blog and I’m still in high-school.” — these are not the words of this particular mystery columnist known as Twiggy, more the words of every other no-name blog I seem to stumble upon. Such words are usually penned in invisible ink prior to the radically uninformed, but nonetheless factually presented, “Sony need to cut the price of the Playstation 3 because Sony need to make more people buy one because Sony need more developers because Sony need…” — you get the idea, valued reader.

I beg the question - do any of these self-titled digital rag tappers have any understanding of the inner-workings of Sony as a company?

I don’t. And I’d bet my anonymity on the belief that they don’t either. Why should any of us know anything about what goes on in Sony’s boardroom — we’re here to play games and talk about our experiences, not assume business practices.

Y’see, such hit-seeking blog entries are crafted by a minority of nobodies without the first clue of business. They see the Playstation 3 last on a pile of hardware sales and think they’re losing adopted ground in a fictional video game war that has absolutely nothing to do with video games whatsoever.

Reader, if you don’t mind me straying into the simple nuances of basic maths for a paragraph or two, allow me to explain as promptly as possible why no price cut is actually a good thing. If you may picture in your minds for a second or two a Playstation 3 system; it retails at a consumer price of $399.99 and costs $440 to manufacture (correct as of December 23rd 2008). A simple mathematic solution (399.99 - 440.00) concludes that this leaves Sony with an offset of (negative) -$40.01. Wake up at the back!

With our offset calculated, we can conclude that based on current figures, every Playstation 3 loses Sony (as a corporation) $40.01. Imagine we were to drop the price of the Playstation 3 to something reasonable, let’s say $349.99. “Huzzah,” call the mass of bloggers, “The system we already own is now a little cheaper. Brilliant!” — wrong. It’s not brilliant at all. If we repeat the same arithmetic as earlier, with our “improved” figures (349.99 - 440.00) we come up with a new negative figure, (negative) -$90.01.

“But $90?” I sense you trainees claiming, hands wiggled poignantly in the air, “$90 is nothing and it’s going to increase market share tenfold.” — thus we reach the crux of the problem.

In February 2009, Sony sold 276,000 Playstation 3 units. Let’s assume that our speculated pricedrop came into effect on the first of April, backed by a substantial (and successful) marketing campaign. We’ll suggest that Sony managed to shift 600,000 units the month of our speculated pricedrop, a substantial growth of both market share and presence. But aside from blog-bragging advantage, what would this mean for Sony? One final equation will give us the solution: $90.01 (the offset between sales price and manufacturing cost) * 600,000 (number of systems sold) = a staggering (negative) -$54,006,000. Just to clarify: that’s fifty-four-million-and-six-thousand dollars lost.

Sony is a big company, but in this economical climate, no one wants to be looking down the barrel of a big fat negative sign prior to the number 54million. It’s potentially crippling. I’m not even a business analyst and I can realise that.

So here’s the thing no-name bloggers; your pleas for a pricedrop are falling on deaf ears, because even this anonymous columnist can do the sums that make a Playstation 3 pricedrop unfeasible at the moment.

That’s not to say the price won’t lower eventually — the maufacturing costs cited earlier are half of what they were in 2006 and they’re dropping all the time. As prices come down, there’s no reason to doubt that Sony won’t pass that saving onto the consumer. Of course market share is being lost, but it’s not so substantial that Sony’s closest competitor is gaining daylight between the systems — in fact you must acknowledge that Sony have done extremely well pushing systems as it is.

And reader - if you are still reading of course - let’s not pretend that the Playstation 3 doesn’t have the longest potential system life-span of the three available. Interchangeable hard-drives, Blu-Ray discs, firmware updates, the potential of the cell chip and reliable hardware mean that the Playstation 3 could easily outlive its proposed ten year lifecycle. In the year 2012, when Microsoft and Nintendo ready their new systems at an early-adopter price point, which console do you think is going to be the cheapest on the market, with the biggest games library and a gaining market share?

“This is why the Playstation 3 didn’t need a pricedrop in 2009″ - will be the headline on a collection of no-name blogs.

“Twiggy” is an anonymous PushSquare columnist who has been spotted in three major cities across the globe. It’s rumoured he’s on the run from the British monarchy who accused him of treason for voicing an opinion.

http://www.pushsquare.com/1402/a-playstation-3-pricecut-could-cripple-sony-so-stop-begging-for-it-twiggy-the-pushsquare-opinionator/

 

How do YOU feel about this?

 

Please discuss!

 

 



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Well I know that this is a week old and I'm not sure where he got his numbers from but I still agree with what he says here for the most part.

The most logical argument is that if you lose money on the console you can make it up with game sales but in this case we a have a machine which stands on its own without the need for games as an upgradable reasonably high end BR player.

Well we probably just have to see what they say at E3...



i know it's impossible :*(



blackstar said:
i know it's impossible :*(

 

Because Sony can't take that much loss of revenue. Even if they do cut the prices nothing will change. They will sale the same amount they are doing now(maybe a month spike but nothing major), and they will still be in last place and losing more money.



to the thread title: sony aren't gonna listen to what people think if it'll cause major trouble for the company so I wouldn't worry..



 

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JRPG said:
blackstar said:
i know it's impossible :*(

 

Because Sony can't take that much loss of revenue. Even if they do cut the prices nothing will change. They will sale the same amount they are doing now(maybe a month spike but nothing major), and they will still be in last place and losing more money.

 

I guess you don't remember the price cut to 400 and 500....

Or the 360 cut for 200 and 300....



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Dgc1808 said:
JRPG said:
blackstar said:
i know it's impossible :*(

 

Because Sony can't take that much loss of revenue. Even if they do cut the prices nothing will change. They will sale the same amount they are doing now(maybe a month spike but nothing major), and they will still be in last place and losing more money.

 

I guess you don't remember the price cut to 400 and 500....

Or the 360 cut for 200 and 300....

 

That was before the economy was this bad, and Sony had more money. Also the tech prices were going down a bit.



Sony is crippled right now financially and I don't expect one before fall. But there will be a price cut in September or October...

Sony cannot afford to lose another year to 360 in sales wise worldwide. If they do, they are done for this generation.



This guy is an idiot. People like to shout how Sony is "losing money" Sony knew they were going to lose at least 3 billion, upwards to 5 or 7 billion from PS3.

PS3, 60 GB cost NINE HUNDRED, 63 DOLLARS to produce. They sold it for 600$. The 20 gig cost 780$ to produce, and sold for 500$. Within first 4 months moanufacturing price came down to 800 and 700 respectively. In the first 16 weeks, PS3 sold 2 million consoles. Respectively at a 250$ to 350$ loss, so a 300$ average lose. Which is a net loss of 600 million. Again manufacturing prices never went down again till 6 months later to 750 and 650. PS3 sold another 2.5 million in that time frame. At a lose of 250$, another net loss of 750 million. A total loss of 1.35 billion dollars, and it's only on sale for 8 months.(This is a pure guess, manufacturing prices don't go down at once they go down over time, real estimates are between the mean of 1 billion to 1.4 billion loss at this time).

At the end of the first year, PS3 sold 9 million units, ALL SELLING at a loss. Even when 80 gig launched it still cost 650$ to produce. Sold for 500$. Even 60 gig was dropped everywhere to 500$.

Even microsoft sold 360 at a loss when it first came out.

It's sad people don't actually understand console companies, even now Sony is not making a profit on the 40(80 gig now) model, it is however making money on the 80(160 gig) model now. About 10$ per console.

They lost nearly, in 2 years around 3.5 billion to 4 billion dollars. This was not a mistake or due to economy, they new this was going to happen, first 2 years PS2 lost nearly 3 billion for sony, because they sold at a loss.

Right now Sony doesn't want to lose more then 4 billion though, that would be a new record for them, thus they don't want to drop price, but don't dare say it'll cripple them, it won't.



JRPG said:
Dgc1808 said:
JRPG said:
blackstar said:
i know it's impossible :*(

 

Because Sony can't take that much loss of revenue. Even if they do cut the prices nothing will change. They will sale the same amount they are doing now(maybe a month spike but nothing major), and they will still be in last place and losing more money.

 

I guess you don't remember the price cut to 400 and 500....

Or the 360 cut for 200 and 300....

 

That was before the economy was this bad, and Sony had more money. Also the tech prices were going down a bit.

 

We're talking about LOWERING the price here...
PS3 sales will go up and 360 sales will go down.... just like the past 2 cut I just mentioned...

Anyway... this cut's not gonna happen.



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