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1. The problems will never be solved so long as we point fingers and expect one party to solve things for us.  Both sides of the aisle are just as guilty.

 

2. The "Tea Parties" were demonstrating against unwarranted government spending and policies (both Obama and Bush) and for the support of the Federal Reserve Transparency Act (HR 1207).

 

3. Our financial problems are the effects of the Federal Reserve, fractional banking, international borrowing and empire building.  We need to stop trying to solve these problems with band aids.  

 

4.  Americans.  We've grown so content and complacent that we require a blow torch under our assess to see the fire all around us.  You want to be a Republic again, earn it.   Else we drift further away from our founding nation too blind to see, too dumb to care and too weak to fight back.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

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theprof00 said:
You've given this new administration 3 months.

Those companies had to be bailed out. There is no recourse.

It's quite simple.

 

So you're saying that if a presidency started a war, or banned gay marriage/abortion in the first 3 months of the presidency you would be "Cool" with it because you have to give the president a chance?

What you are not getting is that these protests are not specifically about Obama, although some of the anger of people is specifically focused on Obama (which is primarily a side effect of being the president because most people see you as the leader of the Government), and most of these people's fears and concerns are very well founded. The Federal Reserves "quantitative easing" (money printing) and the unprecidented deficits for the next few years will come back to haunt the United States ... There is a long list of failed states that all performed similar actions because they "Had" to do them, and yet there is no example that demonstrates that they were good decisions.

Certainly, something had to be done to prevent the banks from failing ... (several presidencies ago they should have began splitting banks that were "Too Big to Fail" or increasing regulation to prevent them from taking on unnecessary risk) ... but the bulk of what is being done is completely unrealted to the problems and more closely resembles a wish list of the most "Progressive" members of the Democratic party.

While mortgage resets remain high the foreclosure rate will remain high because of (and causing) lower property values, and while property values remain low and foreclosures remain high consumer confidence will remain low because of (and causing) increasing unemployment. It is going to be sometime in 2012 before we really get to the bottom, and so far the government has spent more money in less time than anyone ever has ... How much money will they have spent before the end of this, and will we be facing hyper-inflation before the economy recovers.



Protests work, that's why the Iraq war never happened j/k



highwaystar101 said:
Protests work, that's why the Iraq war never happened j/k

Protests do work.   They spread their message.   Rarely do protest organizers actually intend/believe their protest will generate real action on the part of those they protest against.  The goal is to spread their message to others.  I'd say they certainly validated their efforts.

 



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Viper1 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Protests work, that's why the Iraq war never happened j/k

Protests do work. They spread their message. Rarely do protest organizers actually intend/believe their protest will generate real action on the part of those they protest against. The goal is to spread their message to others. I'd say they certainly validated their efforts.

 

I've bolded it for you lol

 



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Never mind, didn't realise the thread was so long.



ironman said:

Sorry about the double post, but this was just too good to pass up, I have a good friend who is a lawyer, which I realize isn't as prestigiouse as being a student of the law, but it is as close as I ever want to get to that profession. 

Reguardless of where a case is tried, in the case of a large corperation vs. a single person the court is more leniant with the lone person given the fact that they cannot afford the caliber of legal representation that a corpration can. I never said that a judge just rubber stamps these cases, but they hare more understanding of the individule and that is a fact.  Also, with the law on their side (TARP, PROP8 and HUD) there is no question that the prosecution will win most cases. 

 

Oh, OK.  So you KNOW  lawyer. I'll come to you next time I need legal advice.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
ironman said:

Sorry about the double post, but this was just too good to pass up, I have a good friend who is a lawyer, which I realize isn't as prestigiouse as being a student of the law, but it is as close as I ever want to get to that profession. 

Reguardless of where a case is tried, in the case of a large corperation vs. a single person the court is more leniant with the lone person given the fact that they cannot afford the caliber of legal representation that a corpration can. I never said that a judge just rubber stamps these cases, but they hare more understanding of the individule and that is a fact.  Also, with the law on their side (TARP, PROP8 and HUD) there is no question that the prosecution will win most cases. 

 

Oh, OK.  So you KNOW  lawyer. I'll come to you next time I need legal advice.

 

Well that was unecesarily sarcastic and offensive. But you might learn more than they will teach you in college...just saying.

 



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Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

I just say that because a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. Clients come in very often thinking that they have some special knowledge about the law based on their limited experiences. In actuality, they are most of the time dead wrong.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Well then they are ignorant. I don't pretend to know anything about the law, but I know a few things, I was a life insurance agent for a short time, and being such there were certain laws we needed to know. Also, I try to educate myself on current events, which has an interesting side effect. I learn a little about some laws past, such as the HUD and PROP8 laws that for the most part caused this financial melt down.



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Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!