| wfz said: The policemen should have just opened fire and killed everyone. |
i hope thats a joke...
SciFiBoy said:
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he was clearly trying to be in their way.
and looking at the video again...it was the third time when he got out the baton... first he tried pushing her away, then he hit her, then he got out the baton. clear and proportionate escalation. why she keep wanting to get close to him?? maybe she has a knife...maybe she has a bomb on her...who knows.
your dislike for the police is obviously clouding your judgement.
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| MrBubbles said: he was clearly trying to be in their way.
and looking at the video again...it was the third time when he got out the baton... first he tried pushing her away, then he hit her, then he got out the baton. clear and proportionate escalation. why she keep wanting to get close to him?? maybe she has a knife...maybe she has a bomb on her...who knows. your dislike for the police is obviously clouding your judgement.
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wtf, clearly, i was watching different videos to you...
consider this, it is your dislike of protestors that is clouding your judgement
SciFiBoy said:
i hope thats a joke... |
I'm just being sarcastic like everyone else....
Right? :P
wfz said:
I'm just being sarcastic like everyone else....
Right? :P |
scarily, i think yours was the only one that wasnt serious!
SciFiBoy said:
wtf, clearly, i was watching different videos to you...
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you could say i dislike agressive, violent, and racist protesters ... and then you would be right. however, you would have no reason to say that it has clouded my judgement...the guy was in their way and the woman continued to get right up to him when he is swarmed by other people as well(you can see him pushing at other people outside the view of the camera(interesting the camera moved away from them...in all likelyhood that event was staged for the camera). You claimed he was beaten, when he wasnt...demonstrating your separation from the reality of the incident. i would say you might be able to argue that the officer used more force than required on the man...but since you are in your own reality, it would be pointless.
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Don't tase me bro
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Pushing her and the backhand were not excessive. Nevertheless, striking her with the truncheon was excessive. The officer should be reprimanded for it, and it appears as if he will be.
| MrBubbles said:
you could say i dislike agressive, violent, and racist protesters ... and then you would be right. however, you would have no reason to say that it has clouded my judgement...the guy was in their way and the woman continued to get right up to him when he is swarmed by other people as well(you can see him pushing at other people outside the view of the camera(interesting the camera moved away from them...in all likelyhood that event was staged for the camera). You claimed he was beaten, when he wasnt...demonstrating your separation from the reality of the incident. i would say you might be able to argue that the officer used more force than required on the man...but since you are in your own reality, it would be pointless. |
please prove that they were being violent and racist, aggressive maybe, but the response would still be extreme, but they werent violent or racist.
i really doubt it was staged, why would the women voulunteer to get beaten?
there is a video that shows him being beaten on ITN
edit: the footage is on this link - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2009/apr/08/g20-police-assault-ian-tomlinson-video
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