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"But as always, technology refused to be dignity's bitch."--Vance DeGeneres
I think the point of most cost arguments is due to the fact that many of the features of a console are percieved to be lack value added to justify the cost. Where is the PS3 or Xbox360 that just tries to play games? It's almost a Dell computers mentality.... So we've already seen that 100$ went for true backwards compatability... who really wants a flash card reader on a game system...
Sqrl, I think you missed the point of those discussions entirely - they were hypothetical.
It's like saying, if I had an unlimited supply of money, just think what I'd be doing right now instead of going to college!
Of course realistically it won't happen; people are thinking of what might have been if the situation was different. Who doesn't do that?
Sqrl said: We have all heard this argument a dozen times by now.. "If the PS3 were $299 and the Wii were $499...." , "If the 360 was $249....", etc.... But really how relevant is any of that? The answer, as you may of guessed by my title, is 100% undeniably that this line of reasoning is complete and utter BS. To give it further consideration than that is only encouraging its utter stupidity. Strong words I know, and I am not aiming them at the people aspousing the idea but the the idea itself. In fact the point of this thread is to educate this poor souls who have allowed themselves to fall into this trap. So, there are of course some very obvious and very logical reasons for all of this.... So lets examine them shall we?
PS -Please Bookmark/copy/past this thread and link it as a responce to anyone who utilizes this argument in the future. And also please add anything I forgot or missed, I am about to start a class so I can't add more now, but I might later. |
All of that is entirely irrelevant. Plain and simple. Yes, in the real world Sony has to worry about the bottom line. When people speculate how different things would be if the prices were different you, by the very concept, must take out the real world component. Real world logistical concerns are exactly the thing "what if..." statements seek to avoid.
Really, you're arguing about what color the apples are when other people are trying to consider their potential sizes. Your argument has no relevance to what you're fighitng against whatsoever.
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Words Of Wisdom said:
This is deceptive. You are answering the question "Why is ABC console not XYZ price?" not "Would the public buy ABC console at XYZ price" as your title would seem to indicate. If one could realistically get the value of the PS3 for $299 dollars and the value of the Wii for only $499, the most likely outcome should be obvious. That this situation is not possible (or at least highly unlikely) due to a number of factors is irrelevant to this argument. I agree that it is not relevant, but not that it is BS. |
Actually, the example Sqrl provided is total BS. "If the Wii was $499 and the PS3 was $299" then either Nintendo would be retarded and Sony would be bankrupt in 3-6 months, of the Wii would be more powerful than the PS3 and look who's got controller AND GRAPHICS superiority?
It is reasonable to speculate abot "what if the PS3 dropped another $100?" but I don't think that that is what Sqrl is railing against.
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All of that is entirely irrelevant. Plain and simple. Yes, in the real world Sony has to worry about the bottom line. When people speculate how different things would be if the prices were different you, by the very concept, must take out the real world component. Real world logistical concerns are exactly the thing "what if..." statements seek to avoid. Really, you're arguing about what color the apples are when other people are trying to consider their potential sizes. Your argument has no relevance to what you're fighitng against whatsoever.
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OK, so it's perfectly fine to make up some fantasyland numbers and say "A fifty dollar PS3 would be sweet!" I think that as consumers we can all get on board with that statement. If you want to post about that, the only complaints you'll get are along the lines of "WTF is the point of your post? It means nothing."
But nobody wants to leave it there. People want to take their fantasyland numbers and try to make them into some kind of statement about the real world. And that is pure delusion. That is what I see Sqrl fighting against.
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All I gotta say is, Sony shouldn't have included Blu-ray. Then they wouldn't be stuck in this stupid situation. The PS3 woulda STARTED at $399 and been $349 for this christmas already.
stof said: If a XXX console came out, Believe me, it would sel well regardless of price. |
i want one ;) sqrl, it's a stupid argument, but your reasoning against it is flawed. it's just a what if scenario anyways, and no intelligent person takes it seriously. it's like saying that Ferrari Enzos would outsell Mustangs if they were the same price, well no shite sherlock.
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You two crack me up.