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Skeeuk said:
mjc2021 said:

And some of those Sony games include bundling might I add.

 

gears of war 1+2 and halo 3 were also bundled, halo 3 is probably the most bundled game out of ps360, official and unofficially.

 

Well Halo 3 had some limited bundling but that was like buying a premium for $400. I don't recollect any Microsoft bundling of Gears of War.

Either way Motor Storm, Resistance, and Uncharted had much heavier bundling.

 



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Wait... Why did you only include exclusives on PS3 side... Yet used multiplatform game for the 360 side? Gears of war is multiplat you know...

Sales =/= quality

If GT5 were out, it would sell more then Halo 3. Anyone who sees that as a ridiculous statement, look up other GT sales. In fact look up GT5P, a demo which sold 3 million copies. A DEMO. They only released the demo to get funding for the game, so they could do things like buy cars, crash them, to see real effects of a crash. They are buying 500 thousand dollar cars, and crashing them. GT3 sold 14 million. GT4 sold 9.6 million. GT1 10.6 million. They all sold around the same. If you think demo sales effects final sales, look at GT4p, it sold 1.5 million, and main game went on to sell 10 million.

It's in a new league. PS never sold FPS games before. It sold RPGs, and racing, and fighters. Xbox always sold FPS games, moving a little into WRPG territory. That is a fact. Look at JRPGs, released on 360, 200-500k LTD(One exception being Lost Odyssey), released on PS3? 220k first week in Japan alone, while 360 has worldwide sales at around 150k first week. It's sad really, releasing a JRPG on 360 is suicide, I do not understand publishers doing that, it has to be microsoft paying development costs.



Zuzic said:
Wait... Why did you only include exclusives on PS3 side... Yet used multiplatform game for the 360 side? Gears of war is multiplat you know...

Sales =/= quality

If GT5 were out, it would sell more then Halo 3. Anyone who sees that as a ridiculous statement, look up other GT sales. In fact look up GT5P, a demo which sold 3 million copies. A DEMO. They only released the demo to get funding for the game, so they could do things like buy cars, crash them, to see real effects of a crash. They are buying 500 thousand dollar cars, and crashing them. GT3 sold 14 million. GT4 sold 9.6 million. GT1 10.6 million. They all sold around the same. If you think demo sales effects final sales, look at GT4p, it sold 1.5 million, and main game went on to sell 10 million.

It's in a new league. PS never sold FPS games before. It sold RPGs, and racing, and fighters. Xbox always sold FPS games, moving a little into WRPG territory. That is a fact. Look at JRPGs, released on 360, 200-500k LTD(One exception being Lost Odyssey), released on PS3? 220k first week in Japan alone, while 360 has worldwide sales at around 150k first week. It's sad really, releasing a JRPG on 360 is suicide, I do not understand publishers doing that, it has to be microsoft paying development costs.

I would include Sony games even if they were on the PC. Financially that probably wouldn't be a bad idea at this rate.

Like I said already GT5 Prologue is a demo that offers more than some completed games. It also has online play and downloads. For a demo that's quite a package and its also sold at a budget price. There's no doubt in my mind that GT5 will sell great. But this is also a GT being released on the worst selling Sony console ever.

 

PS2 sold plenty of FPS games. Any FPS game that was on both PS2 and Xbox sold better on the PS2.

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?&results=50&name=&console=PS2&keyword=&publisher=&genre=FPS&order=Sales&boxart=Both&showdeleted=&region=All&alphasort=

 

 

Obviously the 360 releasing exclusive JRPGs is an effort to gain steam in Japan. Either way JRPGs haven't been putting out impressive number this generation period.

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?&results=50&name=&console=PS3&keyword=&publisher=&genre=RPG&order=Sales&boxart=Both&showdeleted=&region=Japan&alphasort=

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=&console=X360&region=Japan&developer=&publisher=&genre=RPG&keyword=&boxart=Both&results=50&order=Sales

Those JRPGs probably made their money back and helped sell consoles. So it wouldn't be in vain in that sense.



Nintendogs Sales > Halo3 + Gears 1 + Gears 2 Sales

What exactly does that prove?



WiiStation360 said:
Nintendogs Sales > Halo3 + Gears 1 + Gears 2 Sales

What exactly does that prove?

Good point. Obviously Nintendogs has the same audience.

 



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Whereas LBP, ratchet and Clank, Singstar Motorstorm and GT5 Prologue have the same audience as Gears of War... Or something



scottie said:
Whereas LBP, ratchet and Clank, Singstar Motorstorm and GT5 Prologue have the same audience as Gears of War... Or something

Well if I added more 360 genres to the list it would surpass PS3 sales even more so. The 10 PS3 games include 3 shooters by the way.

And anyhow, the PS3 and 360 have a more similar audience than the 360 and DS.



WiiStation360 said:
Nintendogs Sales > Halo3 + Gears 1 + Gears 2 Sales

What exactly does that prove?

If you belive what people on VGC say it means it's better game

 



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Skeeuk said:
mjc2021 said:

And some of those Sony games include bundling might I add.

 

gears of war 1+2 and halo 3 were also bundled, halo 3 is probably the most bundled game out of ps360, official and unofficially.

 

 



mjc2021 said:

I just want to point out that these four Microsoft games sold more than these 10 Sony games.

22.74 Million

1.Gears of War
2.Gears of War 2
3.Fable 2
4.Halo 3


21.08 Million

1. Resistance: Fall of Man
2. Motor Storm
3. Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
4. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
5. Little Big Planet
6. Resistance 2
7. Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction
8. Killzone 2
9. Heavenly Sword
10.SingStar

Of the PS3 games you selected theres 5 new IP's, 1 game (singstar) that never sells amazing, and a $40 demo. Then theres Killzone 2 which although highly hyped its not a big series, in fact most people don't know there was a Killzone. Ratchet & Clank and Resistance 2 sold well, I have nothing to say about them.

For 360 theres 1 new IP, and all 4 were highly hyped (including Halo 3 which was bigger than the moon landing).

It'll be more fair when its the 4 360 games you selected vs. Gran Turismo 5, God of War 3, Killzone 2, and Resistance 2 when they're done selling.