Bubbles, quit trying to get coutries wiped out for silly reasons like people making assumptions about you.
Akuma and Rath, lay off Bubbles.
You all play nice or I'll pull this thread over.
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Aww ok Tor.
But does anyone have any idea how to fix Somalia? Military intervention simply wont work, the government is too weak to do anything and I'm pretty sure nobody really wants Al-Shabaab in charge. I really have no idea what the international community can do for this one.
| Strategyking92 said: I think the pirates in indonesia are a bigger problem though. |
Indonesia (specifically the Strait of Malacca) has long been rife with piracy, but that area is becoming less of a problem thanks to the concerted efforts of the various governments in the region. If the regional governments continue to combat piracy, and it appears likely that they will, then addressing piracy in Somalia and possibly Nigeria should take precedence over addressing piracy in that particular area.
I disagree with labeling the pirates off Somalia as terrorists. Hitherto, the pirates have not displayed the desire to employ violence as a means to enact political change. It is, for lack of a better term, all about the money. This could change, but that has not yet happened.
I guarantee in two weeks that no one is going to give a damn about pirates. This just happens to be the hot topic of the week. Last week it was executive bonuses, the week before that it was Cabinet appointees with tax problems, the week before that it was Republicans being slaves to Rush Limbaugh, the week before that it was Obama not wearing a lapel pin.
One thing you can count on is that the American people have the attention span of a fruit fly.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Well. I think a lot of African countries...at least ones that were embroiled in civil wars vis-a-vis USA/USSR proxy battles probably don't have much love for the US of A. They are armed with mostly old soviet stuff though. if we did go to war with somalia, rebuilding Iraq will look like a cakewalk if we try to democratize somalia.
This brings up a great point. I think we should allow failed states in Africa to break into smaller more manageable parts. Kind of like what Eritrea did. Even if it is under a dictator, the government needs to have hegemony within the border. Several countries could benefit if we supported a secession, cause clearly without any infrastructure many of these large and poor countries can't rule within their own borders (think pakistan's northwest region but worse). I think the western mindset has got this notion that once something is drawn on a map we should do everything to prop it up, even though many of the countries are functional failures. Though not all.
^ Interesting fact: Old soviet AK-47s can be brought on the black market for just $3. That is one reason why many militia/terrorist/fanatical groups favour them
I think the country of Somalia should be dissolved, and the territory given to Ethiopia and Kenya is they are willing to govern it.
Or perhaps Italy or the UK would be willing to take their colony back.
Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
— Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire
| Tyrannical said: I think the country of Somalia should be dissolved, and the territory given to Ethiopia and Kenya is they are willing to govern it. Or perhaps Italy or the UK would be willing to take their colony back. |
Bad idea, too much tribal tension and the like. The Somalians wouldn't be willing to live under the Ethiopans or the Kenyans and the Ethiopians and Kenyans probably aren't stupid enough to try.
A better idea is to dissolve the country at least partially and recognise the already autonomous Puntland and Somaliland.
Rath said:
Bad idea, too much tribal tension and the like. The Somalians wouldn't be willing to live under the Ethiopans or the Kenyans and the Ethiopians and Kenyans probably aren't stupid enough to try.
A better idea is to dissolve the country at least partially and recognise the already autonomous Puntland and Somaliland. |
I think Colonialism might be the only option. They can all go back to hating white rule instead of killing each other.
Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
— Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire
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