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peachbuggy said:
I think motion plus will kick start Wii sales in Japan again. Next gen.... who knows with Nintendo. They will probably come out with something completely different again that none of us could guess.

 

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I think it's quite clear that Nintendo's strategy with the M+ is to rectify the shortcomings of the Wiimotes motion sensing to be able to pull in the hardcore crowd that was initially let down by the Wiimotes unfulfilled promise. The Casual crowd is going to love Sports Resort and one or two of the sports game, but the WM+ isn't a new and fun experience for the casual. It's a refined and improved experience for the "Gamer"

The real question is: What Nintendo made games are on the way to use M+?



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stof said: WM+ isn't a new and fun experience for the casual. It's a refined and improved experience for the "Gamer"

The real question is: What Nintendo made games are on the way to use M+?

 

 That is the real question. There has got to be a surprise coming to answer this, and it won't be Wii Music 2.



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stof said:
I think it's quite clear that Nintendo's strategy with the M+ is to rectify the shortcomings of the Wiimotes motion sensing to be able to pull in the hardcore crowd that was initially let down by the Wiimotes unfulfilled promise. The Casual crowd is going to love Sports Resort and one or two of the sports game, but the WM+ isn't a new and fun experience for the casual. It's a refined and improved experience for the "Gamer"

The real question is: What Nintendo made games are on the way to use M+?

I would disagree. If it was for the core, then why is it bundled with an expanded audience game. I'm more enclided to think that this is a device to upstreat the expanded audience.

 



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For Developers. A peripheral is pointless if nobody has one, and making this the sequel to Wiisports, with games that show off how it works is the best way to get it in to every damn house available. As I've said before (and have made bets on) I expect to see some other games get M+ Bundles.

But also, Sports Resort is going to appeal to everybody. Absolutely stinking everybody. Including the people who are going to be using it for lots of other games too.

But mostly, this just doesn't come across as something geared towards casual gamers.
"Hey, Did you hear, Nintendo is releasing a console that lets you interact by waving the controller around" "Wow that's an awesome new experience!"

"Hey, did you hear, Nintendo is releasing a game with a board that tracks your balance, so you can work out and snowboard and do all kinds of cool new things" "Wow, that's an awesome new experience!"

"Hey did you hear, Nintendo is releasing an add on for their controller that significantly improves it's motion tracking" "Oh yeah, my teenage son was saying something about sword fighting"



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jacezo said:

Does anyone else think it was a mistake to announce it for this gen? I think if nintendo had waited and put this on the Wii 2 or whatever it would be a new control mechanism to sell the Wii 2, but now that they have announced it it's to late. But the problem is, what new selling point will their next system have?

EDIT: I took out the word "gimick"

 

If any of us could answer that, we would be running a console+software business that was making billions of dollars. Not posting it on the internets

 

Nintendo will have some very good ideas for their next console



dsister44 said:
no they are going to use it to sale wii sports resort like crazy. but they are going to sale the next wii with hd.

 



WM+ was a reaction to fears that X360 and PS3 would release an improved motion controller on their consoles, eradicating most of the competitive advantage that Nintendo had.
What new selling point will the next console have. Well i am afraid for next generation it will be simply improved graphics and better motion use.
But after that who knows, the virtual reality body suit, brain wave simulated gaming, 3D hologram gaming?



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stof said:
^^

For Developers. A peripheral is pointless if nobody has one, and making this the sequel to Wiisports, with games that show off how it works is the best way to get it in to every damn house available. As I've said before (and have made bets on) I expect to see some other games get M+ Bundles.

But also, Sports Resort is going to appeal to everybody. Absolutely stinking everybody. Including the people who are going to be using it for lots of other games too.

But mostly, this just doesn't come across as something geared towards casual gamers.
"Hey, Did you hear, Nintendo is releasing a console that lets you interact by waving the controller around" "Wow that's an awesome new experience!"

"Hey, did you hear, Nintendo is releasing a game with a board that tracks your balance, so you can work out and snowboard and do all kinds of cool new things" "Wow, that's an awesome new experience!"

"Hey did you hear, Nintendo is releasing an add on for their controller that significantly improves it's motion tracking" "Oh yeah, my teenage son was saying something about sword fighting"

The problem with that theory is that Nintendo NEVER makes anything for 3rd party developers (in the hardware sector). Nintendo is an integrated softwar and hardware company. They also know that software sells hardware (one of the rerasons the PS3 is struggling). So, if they make a hardware addition (like motion plus or the balance board) they will use it for their own gain. Sony and Microsoft both make devices for the 3rd parties becuase they are their only sources of software. In fact, they are ready to spend money for the content where Nintendo won't; they'll just make their own.

Also, looking at the quotes, they fail due to the fact that software sells hardware. In the history of games, there has never been a system that survived without software that people wanted. The NES had Super Mario Bros. The SNES had Super Mario World. The Genesis had Sonic the Hedgehog. The N64 had Super Mario 64. The Playstation had Final Fantasy 7. The PS2 had numerous software titles. In the west, the XBox had Halo. The systems that fail do so becuase they lack the software people want. On your comments, they are focusing on the hardware side, not the software. People didn't buy Wii Fit for the Balance Board. They bought the Balance Board for Wii Fit (it's very true in this case because the Balance Board made the game more expensive). Consumers didn't buy the Wii becuas it was a Wii. It was Wii Sports, the free game, that sold the system. So the assumptions you make faulter due to they look at the hardware side.

Nintendo is putting M+ with Wii Sports Resort for the same reason Wii Sports was free with the Wii. They are having the game sell the hardware. If M+ was a core product, then Nintendo would bundle it with the new Zelda Wii game with 1:1 sword combat. Instead, the sword combat is a game in Wii Sports Resort. Something like that defines the role of the product.

Nintendo will only look at what they plan to do (WiiWare, so far, has been the only thing Nintendo has done for other companies. However, it still benefits them). Since Nintendo is putting this with an expanded audience game, then the focus of M+ is expanded audience.