Not bad ideas in theory, but it's ironic that your name's Pipedream

thekitchensink said: Not bad ideas in theory, but it's ironic that your name's Pipedream

Lol.   But it can be done.  When I bought my first DVD player 10 years ago the format was still new.  I paid $299 dollars for it and the reason I bought the Sony is because they were including 5 movies with it (mail in.)  At the time other manufacturers were including a couple movies or none at all.  They weren't the greatest movies in the world but they were free so what the the hell.  There were cheaper players available but the perceived value of getting the 5 free movies made the extra money for the Sony worth it.  But in reality, how much did it cost Sony to include those 5 movies?  Probably less than 10 bucks.

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I don't think there is much else they can do.

Look yes they don't cost a lot but it's opportunity cost.. Sony will lose out on potential profits and that's why I don't see it happening..

They'll drop the price before the holidays this year, until then they have enough high quality games to keep the system selling at a good pace, the issue isnt units sold because they aren't that far behind 360 but profit.. They've lost a lot of money and they'll wanna break even by the end of the generation.. I don't think it'll happen but that'll be their aim.

sony should be breaking even by march because of the new 45nm chips.

if a price cut i don't expect one til after july.

So basically, you want to take the current $399 model and add the following

-1 movie remote -> $20
-60 gigs(on top of the 60 gigs) -> $20
-pack in blu-ray movie -> $20-30
-pack in 2 games -> $80'ish off your example ones
-HDMI cable ->$40'ish for a cheap one
-10% off Sony Home Theatre System or HD TV -> $100-200

So basically an end user would be saving maybe $300-400 in pack-ins.

Even if Sony was making a 50% profit on all their products, you just increased their production costs by $150-200 which is basically half the cost of the console already.

My numbers were just estimations obviously, but that seems like the exact opposite of what Sony would want to do as they're trying to cut costs.

Don´t forget kh3 that  would boost sales.

I think most of you forgot what FF does in Japan.

FF7 killed the competition in Japan and made the PS the console to own.

The Prices you used are retail prices.  As far as the 100 to 200 off a Home theater or TV you do understand that is an incentive for them to buy another product and the margin on those products is much greater than 10%, right?  HDMI cables are the biggest scam in the electronics world.  They are dirt cheap to produce and people get robbed blind on them. 

So you really think the list above worth 300-400 dollars?  Then my job is done.

You missed one thing buddy, even tho they own right to the movies I believe there's also royalties to be paid to directors of the movie so for every movie packed in they ARE losing money