This is vgchartz. No offense but it would mean more if we had a more official source..I'm a huge 360 fanboy but even I dont necessarily believe it's outselling PS3 in Euroland (though, neither do I think it sells as poorly in Europe outside UK as some say).

Yeah, i agree the PS3 is in secure 2nd. Maybe even 1st if some cards are played correctly on Sony's behalf. Europe is a very casual-hype controlled market, that's why Xbox360 fails to impress even with Halo.

I am replacing my launch Xbox 360 with a Elite.. But I'm doing so in EB Games, so I will get money for my old 360. I'm from Denmark (Scandinavia). I havn't had any big issues with my launch 360, but hope to get a version, that is a bit less noicy and I could use the bigger harddrive.

Personally I have had the feeling that the brand loyalty argument holds no more water then a leaking bucket. I give the consumer in Europe and Australia far more credit them some. Had the argument carried weight Nintendo sure as hell would not be doing as well as it has been, and Microsoft would not have sold over three million units. Combined the two have sold some six million units of an estimated forty million market. I see them selling combined no less then ten million units combined by the end of the year. I doubt these are all new gamers many are former Sony gamers jumping ship. These two consoles are thriving in what is supposed to be Sony land.

Looking at the charts it is obvious that cash is king, and next gen at a low price is even better. At the very least in the eyes of the current crop of buyers. The Wii is moving well by being low priced next gen system. The 360 is moving well by having a better price and being a next generation system. The PS2 is still moving well enough to beet the PS3, because it is a cheap system. Price seems to be more then half the battle, or the determinant factor in this war.

I think Microsoft will hold its own, and probably outperform the PS3. Based on the trends that can be observed. Microsoft will do well if it can keep its current sales ratio to the Wii through the rest of the year. That will be the real water mark. Right now Microsoft is close to selling one console for every two consoles Nintendo sells. Nobody expects the Wii to be stopped in Europe. So if Microsoft can maintain that ratio they will be very healthy in Europe.

The important thing is that the 360 can actually get this close to the Wii in Europe. That is almost 2:1 whereas the PS3 is only doing a little over 4:1 likewise the PS2 is doing 4:1. They have done that having been on the market for so long, and after a modest price cut. Realistically of the two high def consoles they stand the better chance in a Nintendo dominated market.

They have effectively held their own, and their established user base proves they will hold their own for quite some time given the PS3s sales. Even if they started to lose to Sony again they would still hold their own for quite some time.

You can't repair easily, the heat warps the motherboard and you have to reball the chip at a miniumn. This doesn't work all the time either, just look at the reports of the repair shops qutting the market for the 360. If any 3rd party repair is attempted this invalidates your warrenty, as 2 of mine were outside of the 1 year and repairs attempted before the 3 year was announced.

A quick look at the constant sales of faulty xbox 360s *console only* will give you some idea of the number of people who are replacing.

 believe

It's natural because price drop, launch of elite and great game like bioshock. I am waiting 100€ price drop for PS3. If that happens PS3 will dominate X360 rest of year.

 But thats just it.  If Sony does that then Microsoft will make a substantial cut as well.  And the 360's cut in America has been just as effective as sony's and it was half the size

BY THE HELL starcraft,
I was waiting you to push my thread, not to create your lol :
I post it again :

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3 points for you:

- Why there is NO official toppic about the european/others sales figures ?

there are "NA" / "Japan" / "WW"
but no "others" ...

why ?

- here I give you the 3 last weeks numbers according to VGChartz :

aug 19th aug 26th sept 2th
Wii : 106k Wii : 104k Wii : 97k
PS3 : 29k ==> Xbox360 : 49k ==> Xbox360 : 44k
Xbox360 : 23k PS3 : 28k PS3 : 28k

What do you think of these ?
It seems that the Xbox360 price cut+Bioshock+Elite are a success ?

- Do someone noted that the Xbox360 sales numbers in aug26th were 32k
and that they were changed to 49k later ?
strange, is'nt it ?

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once sony drops the price in europe which should be coming soon they'll regain second again...