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atma998 on 10 April 2009
BTFeather55 said:
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Ail said:
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Pristine20 said:
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nitekrawler1285 said:
Maybe his comment is a sentiment towards frustration that the PS3 does get great games even though it has the least marketshare and in many cases is more expensive to develop for.

 

 Apart MGS4 what great exclusive games did PS3 get or will have in the near future???

Several.

 

Well if you know some third party PS3 exclusive that reached million just name it please.

 

That phrase is pretty meaningless nowadays. However, there are lots of ps3 exclusives that are breaking a mil. If you specifically want 3rd party exclusives though, I'd say that there just aren't enough to draw any reasonable statistical conclusions from.

 

 

 Really just name it please...

They've already been named. I find it more difficult to name sony first party games that haven't broken a mil. GT5:P. Motorstorm, LBP, KZ2, R1, R2, Uncharted, R&C and HS are all first party games and they've all broken a mil. Singstar, WKC and Socom are actually the only sony games I can think of that haven't broken a mil. However, they seem like they should do so eventually.

Honestly I don't think my answers would ever satisfy you, you seem to have something else in  mind. You'd do well to explain what point you're trying to make with this.

 

 

 Well you're right this isnt what I was talking about. I'm talking about third party exclusive game. For a console to be successful, you have to get some exclsuive third party big hitters. So far the only one Sony got is MGS4 and I don't think it will have others.

The point here is quite simple. Sony can brag about their first party development division as long as they want but they don't receive great third party support anymore and the reason is simple : third party publishers won't sell enough to make large profit if they make it exclusive to the PS3. So I guess Reggie was right.

 

So how many dozen third party exclusive did the Xbox360 get so far ?

 

Gears, ME and ?

Third party exclusives are a thing of the past.....

Gears is first party

Well X360 didnt get so many either apart Left4Dead.

Wii got Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, My Fitness Coach, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Sonic and the Black Knight, Madworld, Deca Sporta, Active Life, Carnival Games, We Ski, etc. (all games that reached a million or will eventually reach it). Without talking about MH3, DQX, FFCB and another M&S game.

 

 

 Both FFXIII, exclusive to the PS3 in Japan and Final Fantasy Versus XIII should sell well over a million copies in Japan alone if they sell anything like most of the past FF games.

Those are games announced last gen and FFXIII wont be exlusive WW.

 



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DavidValbu on 10 April 2009

And why doesn't he talk about Fatal Frame 4 and bringing it out of Japan? Because in my case, as a gamer, I absolutaly do not care what he thinks about competition, I care about games that I can play. Lately, everytime I see this man I get angry....



jellyfishprince on 10 April 2009

Reggie understands the game he is playing more than other CEO in industry. he knows he has the strongest console, lineup, userbase.. that is why Nintendo is Nintedomination




prediction: wii to sell 150million console by end of 2010

BTFeather55 on 10 April 2009
DavidValbu said:
And why doesn't he talk about Fatal Frame 4 and bringing it out of Japan? Because in my case, as a gamer, I absolutaly do not care what he thinks about competition, I care about games that I can play. Lately, everytime I see this man I get angry....

 

 He really only wants games that is going to appeal to what they perceive to be their core audience and that won't upset too many of the for  the family media watchdog groups.



Heavens to Murgatoids.

SaviorX on 11 April 2009
Avarice28 said:
What is really getting his "noodle" is how in the world last gen the ps2 got every multi-plat and also received exclusives on top of this and this gen the wii is the market leader and "cannot" even get multi-plats same day and date as the last place ps3. Making comments about the ps3 is pointless due to the fact it is not the ps3 that is responsible for the short comings of the wii, it is actually the third parties that are the culprits. It is like the wii is a victim of it's own success, it receives it's multi-plats months later than both HD consoles. Plus the quality of the multiplat is always inferior to it's HD rivals to boot, this is probably very confusing to poor reggie.
He said something about this in one of his quotes about resident evil 5, this is why he is not saying anything about sony currently.

 

It is like no matter what Nintendo does, they can't win with these 3rd parties.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

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Seraphic_Sixaxis on 11 April 2009

Well its official, i hate reggie, and this reinforces my hatred towards the wii.



atma998 on 11 April 2009
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
Well its official, i hate reggie, and this reinforces my hatred towards the wii.

 

 Well looking at your games library, it's not like if it really matters.



Seraphic_Sixaxis on 11 April 2009
atma998 said:
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
Well its official, i hate reggie, and this reinforces my hatred towards the wii.

 

 Well looking at your games library, it's not like if it really matters.

Judge me all you want, i like nintendo, the N64 days and Snes days were awesome to say the least, but the wii... *sigh* Ninty simply lost there touch in my opinion, there DS on the other hand awesome, but there3 home console this gen is not, and reggie keeps proving me right with bs like this.

 



Mr.Y on 11 April 2009
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:

Judge me all you want, i like nintendo, the N64 days and Snes days were awesome to say the least, but the wii... *sigh* Ninty simply lost there touch in my opinion, there DS on the other hand awesome, but there3 home console this gen is not, and reggie keeps proving me right with bs like this.

 

 

Yeah, Sony has never talked smack about Nintendo. Why would Reggie say something like this?



atma998 on 11 April 2009
axumblade said:
atma998 said:
axumblade said:
atma998 said:
axumblade said:
atma998 said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
Maybe his comment is a sentiment towards frustration that the PS3 does get great games even though it has the least marketshare and in many cases is more expensive to develop for.

 

 Apart MGS4 what great exclusive games did PS3 get or will have in the near future???

Third party

US/EU = Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, Valkyria Chronicles, inFamous,

Japan = Yakuza 3, White Knight Chronicles, Demon's Souls, Warriors Orochi Z

 

Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet and InFamous are first party. WKC and Demon's Souls are also published by Sony.

Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3 and Warriors Orochi didnt even reach the 500k mark. 

You said "great exclusive games" didn't say million sellers.

Media Molecule and Insomniac aren't owned by Sony. Nice try. Next time do research.

Also, Yakuza 3 and Warriors Orochi have yet to have a western release.

 

First party game = game PUBLISHED by Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo not developed. Next time do research.

How much did Yakuza 2 and Warriors Orochi (PS2) in the West? Thanks!

 

Granted Wikipedia isn't normally a source I'd go to but I'm too lazy to bother wasting any extra time on an erratic person trying to rejustify themselves despite being wrong.

"In the video game industry, a first-party developer is a developer that is part of a company that actually manufactures a video game console. First-party developers may either use the name of the company itself, like Nintendo; have a specific division name like Sony's Polyphony Digital; or have formerly been an independent studio before being acquired by the console manufacturer, such as Rare or Naughty Dog."

Hmm....That's weird. The console manufacturer have to have them acquired? Awkward.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-party_developer

It's got Insomniac listed there....under "Independant developers" along with the likes of Valve and Id Software. So why don't you just admit you were wrong and I can go and criticize you in another thread?

mmkay? thanks much.

LOL Wikipedia, what a reliable source... Is it you who wrote this article?

BTW here is what they have to say about Insomniac that you didnt post here :

A third-party developer is a developer not directly tied to the primary product that a consumer is using, although some, such as Insomniac Games, may have exclusive publishing agreements or other business relationships with a particular manufacturer while maintaining independence. The primary product may be hardware or software.

Hmmmm interesting...so this exclusive publishing agreement forbid them to release LBP on a rival console....sounds more like a second party publisher to me which also proves my point that this is not a third party developer. Oh and yes they didnt list Insomniac under Third party developer....

Whatever, if you think LBP or Resistance 2 are not first (or second, which of course don't change anything to my point) party titles...well you're the only one on this site to believe this. Also you're welcome to criticize me in other threads if you are able to prove me wrong.

 

p.s you didnt say anything about Yakuza 2 and Warriors Orochi sales in the West...