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Shadowblind said:
WereKitten said:
Shadowblind said:

 

Oh yeah I forgot about Conan. Thats coming too. Add that to the list. Not exactly sure where you got the idea that APB is a PC exclusive though. http://search.ign.com/products?qtype=0&query=APB&objtName=all&sort=relevance&so=exact&ns=true&genNav=true&x=0&y=0

Seriously, at this point the race is between the 360 version being released and the servers closing down... too bad, we need more competition in the MMO arena. I hope the financial downturn does not affect this game, I like its concept much more.



I really couldn't care less for any of these MMOs right now, so cancelled or not....I just want Tales of Eternia online, which got blasted a while back :P Besides, chances are that we'd have to pay extra to play them, so feh!

Hmm... considering that you pay the subscription to Live Gold exactly to have servers and infrastructure up and running, they could just make a deal with MS for a bigger share of the royalties and no extra subscription.

That would be great for the 360 version.



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Shadowblind said:
Seihyouken said:
Shadowblind said:
Jereel Hunter said:
PullusPardus said:
are you guys kidding? ,when is the last time MMO games looked like these pics? , its obviously CGI,
the pics showing how every "Normal" looking person can be the hero , and you get to make your own person and dress the way you want.
the girl looks weird tho xD

Off topic : i like how microsoft comes out with MMORPGs after sony announced they're making 3 + MMORPGs xD

 

Did you read anything about the release? it's apparently been in development for a while, MS just didn't announce it way too early, like Sony does.


I do believ APB and Huxley were announced in '05. Though I'M NOT SURE, just so ya know.

I also believe APB is PC exclusive with any console release, including PS3, still pending while Huxley has been put on hold for 360 to focus on the PC version. There is also Marvel Universe Online which was cancelled a year or two ago. Finally, there is Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures that is still waiting to see development in the 360 version with the PC version launching last year.

360 has a horrible track record for MMOs, with them being put on hold, releasing extremely late, or being cancelled all together.

 

Oh yeah I forgot about Conan. Thats coming too. Add that to the list. Not exactly sure where you got the idea that APB is a PC exclusive though. http://search.ign.com/products?qtype=0&query=APB&objtName=all&sort=relevance&so=exact&ns=true&genNav=true&x=0&y=0

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6189616.html

"While APB had initially been slated to appear for the Xbox 360 and the PC, a Realtime Worlds spokesperson told GameSpot that the PC edition was the developer's priority and will be the first to market. Noting that Crackdown was the only game to fall under the exclusivity contract the studio signed with Microsoft in 2005, the RTW rep said that if it does proceed with console editions of the game, both an Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 version are on the table, confirming rumors sparked last week concerning a possible edition of the game on Sony's console."

 

 



WereKitten said:
Shadowblind said:
WereKitten said:
Shadowblind said:

 

Oh yeah I forgot about Conan. Thats coming too. Add that to the list. Not exactly sure where you got the idea that APB is a PC exclusive though. http://search.ign.com/products?qtype=0&query=APB&objtName=all&sort=relevance&so=exact&ns=true&genNav=true&x=0&y=0

Seriously, at this point the race is between the 360 version being released and the servers closing down... too bad, we need more competition in the MMO arena. I hope the financial downturn does not affect this game, I like its concept much more.



I really couldn't care less for any of these MMOs right now, so cancelled or not....I just want Tales of Eternia online, which got blasted a while back :P Besides, chances are that we'd have to pay extra to play them, so feh!

Hmm... considering that you pay the subscription to Live Gold exactly to have servers and infrastructure up and running, they could just make a deal with MS for a bigger share of the royalties and no extra subscription.

That would be great for the 360 version.

 

They didn't do that with PSU or FFXI.

the RTW rep said that if it does proceed with console editions of the game, both an Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 version are on the table, confirming rumors sparked last week concerning a possible edition of the game on Sony's console."

Don't ignore this part, buddy.



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Pure awesome, I know its an MMORPG but how will the gameplay be? I don't know much about MMO's



 

That was a bad trailer. Was she a super-hero something?

I doubt this will come to the X360 though. Funcom said they was gonna launch Age of Conan on the X360, and it already flopped on the PC so it will probably never come out on the X360, and they're already suggesting another MMO for the console? This gen will be over by then.



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The trailer looks good to me, could be interesting. Waiting for some actual gameplay footage first, at this point I am more looking forward to Heavy Rain.



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PS3 vs 360 sales

Rpruett said:
Jereel Hunter said:
JamesCizuz said:
selnor said:
^ The crazy thing is PS3 and PSP are to different platforms. But both Sony. Noone kicks up a fuss when a game is on both and called exclusive.

PC and 360 are both M$, so yeah it's exclusive to M$. So I dont see the problem anyway. PC sales dont affect console sales. And if they do, we are talking only a few thousand at most.

No actually. PC is a open platform which includes systems from OSX to Windows based platforms to Unix based systems. The hardware is not owned by microsoft, and windows is only a medium, which you don't have to pay royalities unless you go under the "Games for windows" development.

Fanboys are funny really, they constantly want something, so they'll twist it to fit there own design. The game is not exclusive, and will look better on PC, get over it. You just  want to somehow make PS3 fanboys get mad over all the "exclusives" like bioshock!(PC, PS3, 360).... Mass effect!(PC 360, same with 2).... Gears!(PC 360) in fact most of the big hitters are multiplat, yet you would say exclusive, what kind of fucked up logic are you running?

PS3, 360, and WII are all personal computers. Console is just to describe they are meant for gaming and prebuilt.

 

PC is an open platform, but is this game going to run on Unix, OSX, etc? If not, it's still MS exclusive. Besides which, all those you listed, were at the very least timed exclusives, and guess what? 90% of their sales came from the 360. You could even say "Halo games go to the PC! Not exclusive! LULZ", but the fact remains that the 3 Halo FPS games have tallied over 23m sales on the 360, and calling them anything but exclusive is semantics.

The point is....more people have computers than video game consoles.  If you own even a relatively new PC (Like 4-5 years old),  you can run many of these new games on low settings if need be.   What is the point in owning a 360 if almost every title that peaks your interest can be played on another system?  

Why should you get to claim that it's "exclusive"  if a good amount of people easily can play it as if it were a non-exclusive?  This holds true for PS3/PC,  Nintendo/PC, or 360/PC games.

 

 

 The reason being is although people have computers the vast majority dont have gaming rigs and peripherals that make the experience as good as a console.  We have multiple computers in my household. All laptops. I dont want to play games like these on a laptop.  This is why PC versions of most games sell much much lower then the console versions.  And not to mention that vast majority of people are more comfortable with a controller than a keyboard and mouse (especially laptop keyboards).



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Shadowblind said:
Rpruett said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Rpruett said:
Jereel Hunter said:
JamesCizuz said:
selnor said:
^ The crazy thing is PS3 and PSP are to different platforms. But both Sony. Noone kicks up a fuss when a game is on both and called exclusive.

PC and 360 are both M$, so yeah it's exclusive to M$. So I dont see the problem anyway. PC sales dont affect console sales. And if they do, we are talking only a few thousand at most.

No actually. PC is a open platform which includes systems from OSX to Windows based platforms to Unix based systems. The hardware is not owned by microsoft, and windows is only a medium, which you don't have to pay royalities unless you go under the "Games for windows" development.

Fanboys are funny really, they constantly want something, so they'll twist it to fit there own design. The game is not exclusive, and will look better on PC, get over it. You just  want to somehow make PS3 fanboys get mad over all the "exclusives" like bioshock!(PC, PS3, 360).... Mass effect!(PC 360, same with 2).... Gears!(PC 360) in fact most of the big hitters are multiplat, yet you would say exclusive, what kind of fucked up logic are you running?

PS3, 360, and WII are all personal computers. Console is just to describe they are meant for gaming and prebuilt.

 

PC is an open platform, but is this game going to run on Unix, OSX, etc? If not, it's still MS exclusive. Besides which, all those you listed, were at the very least timed exclusives, and guess what? 90% of their sales came from the 360. You could even say "Halo games go to the PC! Not exclusive! LULZ", but the fact remains that the 3 Halo FPS games have tallied over 23m sales on the 360, and calling them anything but exclusive is semantics.

The point is....more people have computers than video game consoles.  If you own even a relatively new PC (Like 4-5 years old),  you can run many of these new games on low settings if need be.   What is the point in owning a 360 if almost every title that peaks your interest can be played on another system?  

Why should you get to claim that it's "exclusive"  if a good amount of people easily can play it as if it were a non-exclusive?  This holds true for PS3/PC,  Nintendo/PC, or 360/PC games.

 

If they want to wait for it. As I said, those were timed exclusives, and 90% of the people that wanted it got them on the first platform. It is, to a large degree, why movie theaters are still in business. Sure my whole family can see that movie for a $5 rental... but we have to wait 6 months.

With the money saved on not purchasing a 360 (And using the PC you already have) you could easily have a different console of your choice and play even more games.   At that point,  does it really matter?  It's just another release date.

 

I couldn't play this game on my computer for $199 X_X

I'd need a new graphics card, a processor, a motherboard to get it all running so, ya know, basically a new computer....hmm...and one of those little worm lights you hang over the desk to brighten it up in the dark.

So I think thats a little more then one-ninety-nine. Correct me if I'm wrong of course.

 

Actually yes, you could... $200 is enough to make a decent upgrade, which would no doubt play the game at decent settings.

But why only $200?! Xbox 360 is much more expensive than that, considering the yearly $50 subscription fee (a total of $250 in 5 years), and 360 games being $10-$50 more expensive than the PC versions...

 



Jereel Hunter said:
Rpruett said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Rpruett said:
Jereel Hunter said:
JamesCizuz said:
selnor said:
^ The crazy thing is PS3 and PSP are to different platforms. But both Sony. Noone kicks up a fuss when a game is on both and called exclusive.

PC and 360 are both M$, so yeah it's exclusive to M$. So I dont see the problem anyway. PC sales dont affect console sales. And if they do, we are talking only a few thousand at most.

No actually. PC is a open platform which includes systems from OSX to Windows based platforms to Unix based systems. The hardware is not owned by microsoft, and windows is only a medium, which you don't have to pay royalities unless you go under the "Games for windows" development.

Fanboys are funny really, they constantly want something, so they'll twist it to fit there own design. The game is not exclusive, and will look better on PC, get over it. You just  want to somehow make PS3 fanboys get mad over all the "exclusives" like bioshock!(PC, PS3, 360).... Mass effect!(PC 360, same with 2).... Gears!(PC 360) in fact most of the big hitters are multiplat, yet you would say exclusive, what kind of fucked up logic are you running?

PS3, 360, and WII are all personal computers. Console is just to describe they are meant for gaming and prebuilt.

 

PC is an open platform, but is this game going to run on Unix, OSX, etc? If not, it's still MS exclusive. Besides which, all those you listed, were at the very least timed exclusives, and guess what? 90% of their sales came from the 360. You could even say "Halo games go to the PC! Not exclusive! LULZ", but the fact remains that the 3 Halo FPS games have tallied over 23m sales on the 360, and calling them anything but exclusive is semantics.

The point is....more people have computers than video game consoles.  If you own even a relatively new PC (Like 4-5 years old),  you can run many of these new games on low settings if need be.   What is the point in owning a 360 if almost every title that peaks your interest can be played on another system?  

Why should you get to claim that it's "exclusive"  if a good amount of people easily can play it as if it were a non-exclusive?  This holds true for PS3/PC,  Nintendo/PC, or 360/PC games.

 

If they want to wait for it. As I said, those were timed exclusives, and 90% of the people that wanted it got them on the first platform. It is, to a large degree, why movie theaters are still in business. Sure my whole family can see that movie for a $5 rental... but we have to wait 6 months.

With the money saved on not purchasing a 360 (And using the PC you already have) you could easily have a different console of your choice and play even more games.   At that point,  does it really matter?  It's just another release date.

 

As I said, for 90% of people, it apparently does matter. Lets say a game with awesome multiplayer comes out, you want it at the same time as your friends, right? Once you get rid of that early-purchase factor, everyone's tired of the game before you get into it, and effectively you get less out of your purchase. I got Halo 3 at launch, and so did 10 people I know(within the first month or so). We had so many amazing nights with big team fights, custom games on lots of different settings, etc. That gave me more replayability/enjoyment than most of my other 360 games combined. If I was just getting to Halo 3 now, I would have a mediocre single player campaign, and the chance to play with some strangers, and not get a tenth of the enjoyment I had.

You're also making a number of major assumptions:

Assumption 1) That the computer is always available. Most families have a PC these days, but guess what? Everyone in the family probably uses it. Having a 360 and a PC allows more people to play at once. Also, a 360 supports 4 players in a large % of games. How many people does a PC entertain at once? Gears 4 splitscreen Coop on a PC? I think not.

Assumption 2) It's as fun to play at a desk with a much smaller screen than on a couch with your much larger TV.

Assumption 3) That you don't use the Xbox for anything else. I use my Xbox for a lot... I DL movies off of Live because I can watch them on my TV. I also use my netflix via xbox because if I wanna watch a movie, I wanna do it on a screen larger than 21''.  It's also my DVD player.

 

In short, your arguments assume that someone enjoys playing the PC more than a console. If someone just likes consoles in general, they lose their traction.

1) The same argument could be said about the Xbox 360 (hell, even more so). Nowadays most families have more than just 1 PC - we have 3 PCs in the house, and no one ever bothers another about computer needs.

But Xbox 360 is usually in the living room, isn't it? So what happens when someone else wants to watch a TV program? Xbox 360 is even more under pressure from others because the TV is an extra factor.

2) You can wish to play PC on the couch with the larger TV. Your point is moot. You can only blame yourself if you don't have the PC in the living room.

3) PC still does ALOT more than Xbox 360. Not even comparable.

 



Dark Chaos said:
Rpruett said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Rpruett said:
Jereel Hunter said:
JamesCizuz said:
selnor said:
^ The crazy thing is PS3 and PSP are to different platforms. But both Sony. Noone kicks up a fuss when a game is on both and called exclusive.

PC and 360 are both M$, so yeah it's exclusive to M$. So I dont see the problem anyway. PC sales dont affect console sales. And if they do, we are talking only a few thousand at most.

No actually. PC is a open platform which includes systems from OSX to Windows based platforms to Unix based systems. The hardware is not owned by microsoft, and windows is only a medium, which you don't have to pay royalities unless you go under the "Games for windows" development.

Fanboys are funny really, they constantly want something, so they'll twist it to fit there own design. The game is not exclusive, and will look better on PC, get over it. You just  want to somehow make PS3 fanboys get mad over all the "exclusives" like bioshock!(PC, PS3, 360).... Mass effect!(PC 360, same with 2).... Gears!(PC 360) in fact most of the big hitters are multiplat, yet you would say exclusive, what kind of fucked up logic are you running?

PS3, 360, and WII are all personal computers. Console is just to describe they are meant for gaming and prebuilt.

 

PC is an open platform, but is this game going to run on Unix, OSX, etc? If not, it's still MS exclusive. Besides which, all those you listed, were at the very least timed exclusives, and guess what? 90% of their sales came from the 360. You could even say "Halo games go to the PC! Not exclusive! LULZ", but the fact remains that the 3 Halo FPS games have tallied over 23m sales on the 360, and calling them anything but exclusive is semantics.

The point is....more people have computers than video game consoles.  If you own even a relatively new PC (Like 4-5 years old),  you can run many of these new games on low settings if need be.   What is the point in owning a 360 if almost every title that peaks your interest can be played on another system?  

Why should you get to claim that it's "exclusive"  if a good amount of people easily can play it as if it were a non-exclusive?  This holds true for PS3/PC,  Nintendo/PC, or 360/PC games.

 

If they want to wait for it. As I said, those were timed exclusives, and 90% of the people that wanted it got them on the first platform. It is, to a large degree, why movie theaters are still in business. Sure my whole family can see that movie for a $5 rental... but we have to wait 6 months.

With the money saved on not purchasing a 360 (And using the PC you already have) you could easily have a different console of your choice and play even more games.   At that point,  does it really matter?  It's just another release date.

 

By your logic not many people should buy a 360?? So I guess explain why the 360 versions always outsell the PC versions???

 

Thing is the PC versions are the ones that actually outsell the 360 versions most of the times...