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Forums - Nintendo - Was Nintendo's 2008 flop of a lineup merely an issue with perception?

Yup you're damn right this is notoriously late. I just had a minor thought and I figure I let all of you get away with your nonsense topics about nothing so now it's my turn damnit!

Everyone was mighty bummed about Nintendo's efforts last Fall. By everyone of course I'm referring to everyone that matters. Obviously if you disagree with that statement, you do not fit into the category of mattering. People thought it was a disservice to have the Fall lineup consist of Animal Crossing, Wii Music and Wario Land: Shake It. I thought about it though. Nintendo had a lot of major, major hits last year, and there was a portion of last year that console owners were freaking giddy about...the first half. While a whole lot of nothing was being released by first parties on those other two consoles that we will not mention, Nintendo was releasing it's real lineup.

So I began to think, which comes easier as the Jameson flows more quickly into my system, and it dawned on me. The problem was always the Fall lineup. There was no bitching until we found out what it was. However, it seemed that everyone had forgotten what graced the console in the first six months. People expect to get scraps in the first half of the year and then get a robust three course meal in the second half. Nintendo did it backwards. To conclude, 2008 was just fine if you look at the releases in reverse!

January-
February-Animal Crossing: City Folk
March-Wii Music
April-Wario Land: Shake It
May-Mario Super Sluggers
June-
July-Wii Fit
August-Mario Kart Wii
September-
October-Super Smash Bros Brawl
November-
December-Endless Ocean

With Brawl, Mario Kart and Wii Fit coming out towards the end of the year as opposed to the beginning, it makes the Fall lineup look stronger, which is all you folks really give a shit about since you don't mind sitting stagnant in the Spring time with lower profile games. What's amazing is that no games needed to be added to beef up the lineup. I just pulled the old switcheroo and you folks didn't get anything other than what you already had, you just get it later, and yet you'd be happier this way.

Anyhoos, respond constructively. Do not deconstruct or implode and/or explode in the topic. Moderators are watching...

Back to irish whiskey and celt music.

 



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It probably would have helped.

Although what I would have done is release SSBB and MkWii in different halves of the year but otherwise close to what you list...
Wii Fit early in the year was fine too...

I think the big issue was releasing Mk Wii and SSBB so close to each others and then releasing Wii Music and AC for the holydays.

a Wii Music/SSBB holydays with still AC/Mk Wii early in the year to boost hardware sales all year long would probably have done a lot better....
It seems to me the order the software was released was more a knee jerk reaction to try to eclipse GTA4 than a well thought out plan....( basically jeopardize the beginning of 2009 with weak 2008 holydays titles but steal GTA4 thunder).




PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

I honestly think they assumed 3rd parties would jump on like to the DS and left a window of opportunity open for them. Sadly they didn't take it.

So when 2009 second half comes around Nintendo may release 1 or two big games and 3rd parties yet again will bitch that they cannot compete with Nintendo.

But in the end doesn't matter too much as it allowed me to buy more PS3 games that I normally would not spend money on lol,



 

 

No, I don't think people would have appreciated having to wait an extra 9 months for Brawl.



 

 

If Wii's 2008 was a flop, then the PS3's line up was an abysmal abomination. Wii fit sold over 15 million, and sony's biggest and most montrous first party game was Little Big Planet selling 2million with excessive bundles. hmmm, a $90 game than sells 15 million, or a free game that sells 2 million.



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Nintendo released it's top 4 best titles in like a 8 months period ( Galaxy, Wii Fit, SSBB and Mk Wii) and while it sure helped the Wii sales a lot it's still not always a good idea to play all your good cards so early. And aside from a Zelda Wii I don't really see what title they could still have in store that could be as big as those already released....



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

TacoBoy49 said:
If Wii's 2008 was a flop, then the PS3's line up was an abysmal abomination. Wii fit sold over 15 million, and sony's biggest and most montrous first party game was Little Big Planet selling 2million with excessive bundles. hmmm, a $90 game than sells 15 million, or a free game that sells 2 million.

Is this one of those attention seeking trolls or something? He doesn't even make any sense.

 



 

 

Ail said:
Nintendo released it's top 4 best titles in like a 8 months period ( Galaxy, Wii Fit, SSBB and Mk Wii) and while it sure helped the Wii sales a lot it's still not always a good idea to play all your good cards so early. And aside from a Zelda Wii I don't really see what title they could still have in store that could be as big as those already released....

 

This.

If you look at the complete Nintendo lineup since launch no one can say that Nintendo has forgotten anyone. 

Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Smash Bros, Kart, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario, Batallion Wars, Strikers, Animal Crossing, Excite, Disaster (PAL+JAP).

I mean that's an incredible release list for just two years. The problem was simply Q4 2008. There just wasn't a lot for core gamers that buy games when they release. And this was amplified by the wealth of titles on the PS360.



TacoBoy49 said:
If Wii's 2008 was a flop, then the PS3's line up was an abysmal abomination. Wii fit sold over 15 million, and sony's biggest and most montrous first party game was Little Big Planet selling 2million with excessive bundles. hmmm, a $90 game than sells 15 million, or a free game that sells 2 million.

 

It's called a flop by some due to the excessive complains about the lack of really huge titles released by Nintendo in the last 7 months....But 2008 wasn't a flop, the first half of 2008  was maybe the best 6 months the Wii will ever have in term of quality software releases...

Say what you want but HD consoles have had a steady stream of titles that seem to please customers ( holydays were packed and post holydays didn't slow down with Re5, KZ2, Halo Wars).

LBP wasn't bundled in the US....

And yeah Wii Fit sold a lot more, no Sony or Microsoft title wasn't going to get close but you have to remember too that the competition on the HD console is a lot bigger too, there's not 1 title that really outshine everything else.

There have been like 7-8 titles released the last 6 months that core HD owners might realistically want to play.

The hype doesn't stay on one title because every month there is a new huge title coming....( LBP, Re2, Gears 2, CoD, Re5, KZ2, Halo Wars, Fable 2, GH:WT, RB2, DeadSpace, Mirror Edge, PoP all those titles were released the last 6 months...).

That's one reason no HD console will ever have the legs of any Wii game, the hype moves on as there are constantly new worthy titles coming out. Whereas if you ask a core Wii owner what is the best title for the Wii they will probably tell you Mk Wii which is a year old.

GTA4 was considered the best on PS3 by some 10 months ago, then it was MGS4, then LBP and now some will tell you the best title is KZ2...

 

 

 

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

BengaBenga said:
Ail said:
Nintendo released it's top 4 best titles in like a 8 months period ( Galaxy, Wii Fit, SSBB and Mk Wii) and while it sure helped the Wii sales a lot it's still not always a good idea to play all your good cards so early. And aside from a Zelda Wii I don't really see what title they could still have in store that could be as big as those already released....

 

This.

If you look at the complete Nintendo lineup since launch no one can say that Nintendo has forgotten anyone. 

Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Smash Bros, Kart, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario, Batallion Wars, Strikers, Animal Crossing, Excite, Disaster (PAL+JAP).

I mean that's an incredible release list for just two years. The problem was simply Q4 2008. There just wasn't a lot for core gamers that buy games when they release. And this was amplified by the wealth of titles on the PS360.

But isn't that merely an issue with perception? If Nintendo released these games later, yeah it would have filled out the Fall lineup, but why would it matter since those same games were already in our hands? If Sony released their Fall lineup in the Spring in 2008, it would have left the Fall empty, but you'd still have access to all the same games, just earlier.

My point was to show that the lineup in it's entirety was rather good for 2008, and getting great games earlier than the Fall isn't really a reason to bitch. If you can do something as simple as re-order the games to weaken the spring and bulk up the Fall, and now everything looks great, then really what was there to bitch about in the first place? You still get all the same games.

 



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