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Forums - General - Interesting graph about the acceptance of evolution

As a counter point.... (But the opposite of what i was looking for.)

Half of Britons do not believe in evolution, survey finds

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/feb/01/evolution-darwin-survey-creationism



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Slimebeast said:
I'm proud to be Swedish, but not in this case.

 

You should still be proud, the majority of you are correct.



Kasz216 said:

I'm thinking there has to be some sort of sampling bias there. What part of the US were they in?

I'd like to see some research methods on this study.

Partially because Richard Dawkins is an idiot.

You are riught, it is a Dawkins graph actually, although I doubt he drew it up. the 1,400 sampling rate does seem to to show some bias...

But then again not many Americans I speak to here acknowldge evolution.... I dunno...

 



Kasz216 said:
As a counter point.... (But the opposite of what i was looking for.)

Half of Britons do not believe in evolution, survey finds

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/feb/01/evolution-darwin-survey-creationism

 

I Blame The Daily Mail!



Kasz216 said:
As a counter point.... (But the opposite of what i was looking for.)

Half of Britons do not believe in evolution, survey finds

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/feb/01/evolution-darwin-survey-creationism

 

That article said Half do/think it is most likely true. 38% don't know or don't understand and only 12% say the believe in inteligent design... That's pretty much what the graph said give or take a few people in the sampling rate (10% of which I think were young earth, but the article is unclear).

Besides, the source was the Guardian (my fav newspaper), they have pretty liberal/atheist views typically. That article did basically just say Evolution is theory and fact and that people who didn't believe in it were stupid or not taught properly to begin with.



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highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:

I'm thinking there has to be some sort of sampling bias there. What part of the US were they in?

I'd like to see some research methods on this study.

Partially because Richard Dawkins is an idiot.

You are riught, it is a Dawkins graph actually, although I doubt he drew it up. the 1,400 sampling rate does seem to to show some bias...

But then again not many Americans I speak to here acknowldge evolution.... I dunno...

 

A lot of people believe in evolution but don't aknowledge it I think.

Mostly because of people of people like Richard Dawkins.

I had a conversation with a priest the other day... and generally most priests and there congregassions and the like actually do seem to believe in evolution.

It's just they don't believe in the "Atheist's evolution."

And as such if asked if they believed in evolution would say no.


The difference generally being that a lot of people feel that atheists put a lot of pressure on people suggesting that if you believe in evolution you don't believe in god.

While most people do believe in evolution but believe it is how god did it.

Outside of like Evangelicals and Mormons anyway.

Mostly people just would rather not talk about it or say they don't believe in evolution (when they mean the atheist interpretation) because they're sick of everyone thinking they take the entire bible literally and are sick of atehists bothering them about shit saying stuff like  "Well if you believe in evolution doesn't that mean everything you believe in is bullshit!"



I support evolution (it's so logical).



Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:

I'm thinking there has to be some sort of sampling bias there. What part of the US were they in?

I'd like to see some research methods on this study.

Partially because Richard Dawkins is an idiot.

You are riught, it is a Dawkins graph actually, although I doubt he drew it up. the 1,400 sampling rate does seem to to show some bias...

But then again not many Americans I speak to here acknowldge evolution.... I dunno...

 

A lot of people believe in evolution but don't aknowledge it I think.

Mostly because of people of people like Richard Dawkins.

I had a conversation with a priest the other day... and generally most priests and there congregassions and the like actually do seem to believe in evolution.

It's just they don't believe in the "Atheist's evolution."

And as such if asked if they believed in evolution would say no.


The difference generally being that a lot of people feel that atheists put a lot of pressure on people suggesting that if you believe in evolution you don't believe in god.

While most people do believe in evolution but believe it is how god did it.

Outside of like Evangelicals and Mormons anyway.

Mostly people just would rather not talk about it or say they don't believe in evolution (when they mean the atheist interpretation) because they're sick of everyone thinking they take the entire bible literally and are sick of atehists bothering them about shit saying stuff like "Well if you believe in evolution doesn't that mean everything you believe in is bullshit!"

 

I've never understood that. A lot of people don't seem to realise that god and evolution can co-exist.

Whenever I've seen someone argue that evolution is not fact because of a god related reason that it just exposes insecurity about there faith, like they have to back up something. Ah well.

With reagards to evolution posters though, I guess only the ones that feel strongly post, makes it seem like a small number. Or perhaps the US just has a lot of fence sitters.



highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:

I'm thinking there has to be some sort of sampling bias there. What part of the US were they in?

I'd like to see some research methods on this study.

Partially because Richard Dawkins is an idiot.

You are riught, it is a Dawkins graph actually, although I doubt he drew it up. the 1,400 sampling rate does seem to to show some bias...

But then again not many Americans I speak to here acknowldge evolution.... I dunno...

 

A lot of people believe in evolution but don't aknowledge it I think.

Mostly because of people of people like Richard Dawkins.

I had a conversation with a priest the other day... and generally most priests and there congregassions and the like actually do seem to believe in evolution.

It's just they don't believe in the "Atheist's evolution."

And as such if asked if they believed in evolution would say no.


The difference generally being that a lot of people feel that atheists put a lot of pressure on people suggesting that if you believe in evolution you don't believe in god.

While most people do believe in evolution but believe it is how god did it.

Outside of like Evangelicals and Mormons anyway.

Mostly people just would rather not talk about it or say they don't believe in evolution (when they mean the atheist interpretation) because they're sick of everyone thinking they take the entire bible literally and are sick of atehists bothering them about shit saying stuff like "Well if you believe in evolution doesn't that mean everything you believe in is bullshit!"

 

I've never understood that. A lot of people don't seem to realise that god and evolution can co-exist.

Whenever I've seen someone argue that evolution is not fact because of a god related reason that it just exposes insecurity about there faith, like they have to back up something. Ah well.

With reagards to evolution posters though, I guess only the ones that feel strongly post, makes it seem like a small number. Or perhaps the US just has a lot of fence sitters.

I think the problem is a lot of people insist on making you feel like they can't.   Mostly evangelicals and then what i like to call "angy atheists".

That is... people who seem to care less about what they believe in... and more about being mad at a certain religion because there parents wouldn't let them eat meat on fridays or they never got to watch the sunday morning cartoons or something.  (Which... admittidly, some of those sunday morning cartoons were good.  Saturday was where it's at though.)



I partially disagree, Kasz. While I have seen some atheists be bigots about evolution and religion being inconsistent, I have seen the reverse be true far more often. I have seen many, many Christians suggest that if you believe in evolution at all that you are some kind of atheist swine.

The hostility comes from both sides. And many Christian groups have sought outright suppression of teaching evolution (see John Scopes Monkey trials, many recent movements to undercut Darwinian evolution with ID, a broader social movement against evolution, etc.). But atheists certainly aren't blameless either, although they have certainly not en masse organized some kind of suppression of religions that do not accept evolution.



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