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WessleWoggle on 07 April 2009
Tyrannical said:
The Fury said:
Tyrannical said:

I think Atheism is like one of those new age self help religions, like modern Budhddism or Scientology.

The fact you compared atheism to a religion is funny enough.

Do you not see it as bad as them though? atheists are pushing their view onto others, just like the preachers in the street. I have a religious friend to also hates those people, mainly because he doesn't like the whole pushing religion on people but for them to come to accept their faith on their own.

 

 I'll step it up a level.

What do Atheists, Vampires, and Jewish lawyers have in common?

They all scream hystericaly when confronted by a cross in a public building.


But seriously, agnostics have a don't know, don't care , and don't understand what the big fuss is about religion. Which is completely the opposite of atheists. Atheists have taken a basic agnostic attitude, distorted it to militant absolutism, and added the worst aspects of religious zeal while trying to convert others. They basically made a religion out of it.

 

 

Dude, you really need to learn the difference between weak atheism and strong atheism. Weak atheism is about the same as agnosticism, but strong atheism is when a person who is highly opposed to the idea of god and heavily latches on to science and such to support their worldview and opposes religion, strong atheism is akin to antitheism. They're the ones who you're talking about. 

It's alright to generalize strong atheists, but to say all atheists distort agnosticism to militant absolutism is wrong.



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WessleWoggle on 07 April 2009
thanny said:
...why do atheists even care? if there is no god, then its not exactly gonna hurt anyone if people believe there is one...

Wrong. Some ideas of god can cause a lot of harm. The idea of god in general is useless to society.

Religion doesn't do anything that couldn't come from other sources.

 



antfromtashkent on 07 April 2009
WessleWoggle said:
thanny said:
...why do atheists even care? if there is no god, then its not exactly gonna hurt anyone if people believe there is one...

Wrong. Some ideas of god can cause a lot of harm. The idea of god in general is useless to society.

Religion doesn't do anything that couldn't come from other sources.

 

 

 ummmm... no i do not agree... The "idea" of god helps people to keep them on track.... if you live your life believing there is no punishment for what you do that can only hurt the society.

Edit: please explain how the "idea" of god can hurt our society.



WessleWoggle on 07 April 2009

edit: double post



mrstickball on 07 April 2009

It's crazy that a group of people that don't believe in something try so hard to spread their message of non-belief.

If God doesn't exist, then wouldn't it be prudent not to worry about 'spreading the message'? It's not like a belief in God actually hurts anyone, or anything, or is detrimental to ones health.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

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WessleWoggle on 07 April 2009
antfromtashkent said:
WessleWoggle said:
thanny said:
...why do atheists even care? if there is no god, then its not exactly gonna hurt anyone if people believe there is one...

Wrong. Some ideas of god can cause a lot of harm. The idea of god in general is useless to society.

Religion doesn't do anything that couldn't come from other sources.

 

 

 ummmm... no i do not agree... The "idea" of god helps people to keep them on track.... if you live your life believing there is no punishment for what you do that can only hurt the society.

 

 

The idea of god is not needed for that. Ever heard of karma? Also some people don't need the idea of god to not cause harm, but if god is the only thing keeping you from killing people, then by all means feel free to keep believing.



antfromtashkent on 07 April 2009
WessleWoggle said:
antfromtashkent said:
WessleWoggle said:
thanny said:
...why do atheists even care? if there is no god, then its not exactly gonna hurt anyone if people believe there is one...

Wrong. Some ideas of god can cause a lot of harm. The idea of god in general is useless to society.

Religion doesn't do anything that couldn't come from other sources.

 

 

 ummmm... no i do not agree... The "idea" of god helps people to keep them on track.... if you live your life believing there is no punishment for what you do that can only hurt the society.

 

 

The idea of god is not needed for that. Ever heard of karma? Also some people don't need the idea of god to not cause harm, but if god is the only thing keeping you from killing people, then by all means feel free to keep believing.

Karma (Sanskrit: कर्म kárma (help·info), kárman- "act, action, performance"[1]; Pali: kamma) is the concept of "action" or "deed" in Indian religions understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect (i.e., the cycle called saṃsāra) originating in ancient India and treated in Hindu, Jain, Sikh and Buddhist philosophies.

That is a religeous term......

 



SnesTea on 07 April 2009

is this a good ad? yes, it gets the point across

is this an offensive ad? yes

is it right to offend people to get your message across? no, freedom of speech only applies if it doesn't infringe on others rights/beliefs.



WessleWoggle on 07 April 2009
mrstickball said:
It's crazy that a group of people that don't believe in something try so hard to spread their message of non-belief.

If God doesn't exist, then wouldn't it be prudent not to worry about 'spreading the message'? It's not like a belief in God actually hurts anyone, or anything, or is detrimental to ones health.

It's not crazy, realists just don't like seeing people in a state of what seems like delusion. Don't stereotype all atheists as realists though, many many atheists have delusional ideas just as much as religious people.

If God doesn't exist, then whatever you want to do is your own choice. If spreading atheism is what one wants to do, then that's their choice.

Now, where do you get this idea that belief in god doesn't hurt anyone, anything, or isn't detrimental to health?

The idea of God does do harm. If you deny that you're delusional. Some people think God's on their side, thus causing them to do horrible things and feel good about themselves. I'm not saying all religious people are like this, but some are, and that's the problem, it DOES do harm.

Also, what kind of health? Mental health? Let's not even go there...

Physical health? Haven't you heard of all the cases of people who are harmed by religious beliefs that are centered around god? Go do a google search. Better yet, look here: http://whatstheharm.net/

 

 



Tyrannical on 07 April 2009
antfromtashkent said:
WessleWoggle said:

 

 

The idea of god is not needed for that. Ever heard of karma? Also some people don't need the idea of god to not cause harm, but if god is the only thing keeping you from killing people, then by all means feel free to keep believing.

Karma (Sanskrit: कर्म kárma (help·info), kárman- "act, action, performance"[1]; Pali: kamma) is the concept of "action" or "deed" in Indian religions understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect (i.e., the cycle called saṃsāra) originating in ancient India and treated in Hindu, Jain, Sikh and Buddhist philosophies.

That is a religeous term......

 

 



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