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No they won't. the US is too big and too powerful. We spend more of our GDP on military stuff then the next 10 countries combined (sorry no source, just common knowledge).

Plus China is communist. The same thing will happen to them as the Soviet Union. Yeah I know their leader isn't Stalin, but communism doesn't work.



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Does it really even matter if China overtakes us in political clout? Its not like we will disappear off the face of the earth or something. Would it even affect your life one bit?

And the power of your military is pretty irrelevant when you factor in nuclear weapons. Its essentially who presses the button first.



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The thing with China is that at some point as prosperty grows their population will begin to become more and more aware of the subversive tactics of their government. If China expects to become the dominant superpower they are going to have to change their stance on human rights and free speech. Ever wonder why there are no prolific Chinese writers today? or colleges? Censorship is a disadvantage in a free market, and when the Chinese people see that they are being help back by it they will put pressure on the government or migrate to other nations.

If you ask me India is far more likely to be the next world leader. Their openness and ability to assimilate makes them a threat of epic proportions to China. Similarly Russia has a chance to make a hell of a comeback thanks to their massive natural resources, something China lacks.



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averyblund said:

The thing with China is that at some point as prosperty grows their population will begin to become more and more aware of the subversive tactics of their government. If China expects to become the dominant superpower they are going to have to change their stance on human rights and free speech. Ever wonder why there are no prolific Chinese writers today? or colleges? Censorship is a disadvantage in a free market, and when the Chinese people see that they are being help back by it they will put pressure on the government or migrate to other nations.

If you ask me India is far more likely to be the next world leader. Their openness and ability to assimilate makes them a threat of epic proportions to China. Similarly Russia has a chance to make a hell of a comeback thanks to their massive natural resources, something China lacks.

This has already started to happen.

And I hate to say it, but India is still way behind China in terms of its presence in the world.

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

It's actually pretty funny. During the 19th century, American industries made their employees work like slaves to produce products for the rich European countries. Now a similar relationship has bloomed between the U.S. and China, and most of those European countries are great powers at best.



 

 

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never militarally but economically very likelly



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antfromtashkent said:
never militarally but economically very likelly

Like I said...when nukes are involved, your military power is kind of irrelevant.

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

MontanaHatchet said:
It's actually pretty funny. During the 19th century, American industries made their employees work like slaves to produce products for the rich European countries. Now a similar relationship has bloomed between the U.S. and China, and most of those European countries are great powers at best.

 

Ye a war that nearly destroyed Europe (and the rest of the world except the America's :P) had something to do with European countries not holding on to their superpower status. But we're on the rise to the top again :P

I believe that the next "superpower" won' t necessary be one country, we're living in a much complexer world these days. Unless another war destroys half the world and one country gets the upperhand.



 

akuma587 said:
antfromtashkent said:
never militarally but economically very likelly

Like I said...when nukes are involved, your military power is kind of irrelevant.

 

 

 well we have A LOT more nukes :)