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naznatips on 04 April 2009

Sounds like a great problem to have. I'm looking forward to good implementation of this.



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mike_intellivision on 04 April 2009

Too accurate -- meaning too sensitive for this application if used to its maximum extent.

Some possible explanations put forth in comments elsewhere include the difference in the weight/size of the Wiimote vs. the weight/size of real sports equipment.

Most guesses have had the price of the unit in the $10-$15 range (my guess is $10 MSRP with many retailers adding five bucks to the price, much like Gamestop does with Wii Wheels and Zelda Zappers).

Right now, there are 50M Wiis and about 110M controllers (the average was 2.2 controllers per Wii). So selling 50M WM+ add ons would mean roughly half the people would have to buy them. Considering that over 40 percent of the Japanese Wii owners have bought Wii Sports AT FULL PRICE, this is not an insane prediction, particularly if several desirable games made use of the add-on.

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thekitchensink on 04 April 2009

All this means is that you have to actually be able to play tennis in real life to be able to use the Motion+ in a completely-accurate tennis game. If you didn't know how to play properly, you'd be hitting the ball into the netall the time, or completely failing to hit it at all. The trick is giving you just enough control so that it goes exactly where you want it, without making you feel like you suck aqt the game.



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NJ5 on 04 April 2009
mike_intellivision said:
Too accurate -- meaning too sensitive for this application if used to its maximum extent.

Some possible explanations put forth in comments elsewhere include the difference in the weight/size of the Wiimote vs. the weight/size of real sports equipment.

Most guesses have had the price of the unit in the $10-$15 range (my guess is $10 MSRP with many retailers adding five bucks to the price, much like Gamestop does with Wii Wheels and Zelda Zappers).

Right now, there are 50M Wiis and about 110M controllers (the average was 2.2 controllers per Wii). So selling 50M WM+ add ons would mean roughly half the people would have to buy them. Considering that over 40 percent of the Japanese Wii owners have bought Wii Sports AT FULL PRICE, this is not an insane prediction, particularly if several desirable games made use of the add-on.

Mike from Morgantown

What I wonder is how many WM+s Nintendo is going to make in the first few manufacturing runs... I foresee sellouts for months unless they really go for broke.

 



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Sky Render on 04 April 2009

I can't see MotionPlus being targetted at a price point above $20; that'd clash with the price points of other add-ons. $20 would be the target point, with $15 being the price floor (any lower than that and it enters into "what's wrong with it?" territory, where people ask why it's so cheap).

That it's precise is a nice discovery; the accelerometer in the Wii Remote is already pretty precise (given the limitations of accelerometers), so they must have picked a pretty precise model of gyroscope for MotionPlus to compliment it.



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famousringo on 04 April 2009

The predictions of peripheral failure in this thread are hilarious. As if Nintendo's had a hard time selling Wii peripherals this gen.



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YesWiiCan on 04 April 2009

Maybe they could bundle Wiispeak with Wii Motion Plus.



Cobretti2 on 04 April 2009
786_ali said:
bardicverse said:
786_ali said:
bardicverse said:

@Ninjakido & 786-Ali - It was mentioned that a Motion+ accessory would be bundled with Wii Sports Resort, so yes it does come with a game.

As for the point of an accessory not selling well with a game, need I mention Wii Play? Came with a controller, sold through the roof for a pretty medicore to sucky game.

The funny thing here is, that if Motion+ is successfully mastered and as accurate as claims say, no matter what anyone does next gen for motion controls, they can only be as good as Motion+. THis pulls any power or steam for motion controls next gen. People will say "well, we already have this. THis works like last gen stuff." Pretty much for controls, MS and Sony will be hit with what Nintendo was hit regarding Wii graphics.

 

Edit - Ali - 50 mil is possibe. Remember, 4 controls max with motion plus = a max possibe of 200m motion+ units for 100% attach, 50m is only 25% attach.

Wii play sold well becaue it had a controller, which is necessary for playing. Wii motion plus is just an optional add-on which most people won't even know about

 

Fair point. Yet, also understand that the device comes with Wii Sports 2, a title that EVERY Wii owners knows from the original bundled game. Most will understand "Wii Sports 2" on the shelf, buy it for the game, and then get the Motion Plus that it comes with. Once they figure out how to use it, see the difference, there's the strong possibility that they'll want one for each controller they own. I think we can agree that Nintendo knows what they're doing when it comes to marketing.

 

 

True, but that was my initial point. The peripheral will only get popular if bundled with a game, oce people are aware of it then it moght sell on its own. But I agree with NinjaKido, they should have kept WM+ till the next wii so that there would be another incentive to buy the next Wii, otherwise the children and casual gamers won't buy the next one as they'll see no difference

 

 How do you know? they will spend millions of R&D and come up with something better then WM+.

 

Also to add, the WM+ has been rumored that it will come with Red Steel 2, and possible The Conduit.

So that is three possible titles, although we really know that one is confirmed, Wii Sports Resort.

My other guess would be that potentially they will sell one with every console, and maybe even with futre Wii remotes that people buy

 

 



 

 

bardicverse on 05 April 2009
786_ali said:
bardicverse said:

Fair point. Yet, also understand that the device comes with Wii Sports 2, a title that EVERY Wii owners knows from the original bundled game. Most will understand "Wii Sports 2" on the shelf, buy it for the game, and then get the Motion Plus that it comes with. Once they figure out how to use it, see the difference, there's the strong possibility that they'll want one for each controller they own. I think we can agree that Nintendo knows what they're doing when it comes to marketing.

 

 

True, but that was my initial point. The peripheral will only get popular if bundled with a game, oce people are aware of it then it moght sell on its own. But I agree with NinjaKido, they should have kept WM+ till the next wii so that there would be another incentive to buy the next Wii, otherwise the children and casual gamers won't buy the next one as they'll see no difference

Right, I think I'm confused here tho. You knew that WM+ would ship with Wii Sports Resort all along, no? When Wii Sports Resort was announced, they said that it would come bundled with WM+. I'm not sure if your initial point was a theoretical statement, that if it didn't come with the game, it would have flopped.

 



NJ5 on 05 April 2009
Sky Render said:
I can't see MotionPlus being targetted at a price point above $20; that'd clash with the price points of other add-ons. $20 would be the target point, with $15 being the price floor (any lower than that and it enters into "what's wrong with it?" territory, where people ask why it's so cheap).

That it's precise is a nice discovery; the accelerometer in the Wii Remote is already pretty precise (given the limitations of accelerometers), so they must have picked a pretty precise model of gyroscope for MotionPlus to compliment it.

I don't think there was ever any doubt about its accuracy ever since that demo video appeared.

 



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