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NNN2004 on 02 April 2009
selnor said:
^ The thing that springs to mind is that the 360 hasnt got any games from good developers that have gone for realistic graphics.

Big games like Halo 3, Gears 2, Mass Effect all went for art direction. KZ2 currently wins at the moment, but I bet my bottom dollar the 360 will have a couple of games that beat it's graphics this year. Mainly Alan Wake and Forza 3. Also I believe Risen will to.

Personally KZ2 is the ONLY game on PS3 that is better than 360 games. Gears 2 for me was and still has the best wow moment ever for graphics.

Mass Effect 2 will undoubtly look astonishing also. CRYEngine 3 games for 360 will also beat KZ2. But then PS3 will continue to improve as well. By the end of the gen both consoles will not outshine the other.

 

 u forget uncharted 2 man and now sony fans will bash you for this.



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Staude on 02 April 2009
selnor said:
^ The thing that springs to mind is that the 360 hasnt got any games from good developers that have gone for realistic graphics.

Big games like Halo 3, Gears 2, Mass Effect all went for art direction. KZ2 currently wins at the moment, but I bet my bottom dollar the 360 will have a couple of games that beat it's graphics this year. Mainly Alan Wake and Forza 3. Also I believe Risen will to.

Personally KZ2 is the ONLY game on PS3 that is better than 360 games. Gears 2 for me was and still has the best wow moment ever for graphics.

Mass Effect 2 will undoubtly look astonishing also. CRYEngine 3 games for 360 will also beat KZ2. But then PS3 will continue to improve as well. By the end of the gen both consoles will not outshine the other.

Like i said before. Cryengine has some good things and some bad things about it. Particular particle effects and Lightning. I don't believe what they've shown us so far outranks killzone 2.

 

Models and textures beat the hell out of it though..

 

Personally i've had the most wow moments in Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4. I'm not saying that as a "sony fan" response but that's how it is for me. For instance, there is no game with such an advanced animation system as uncharted.. and it has these beautiful visuals throughout with No loads in the game at all! Some of the best games ever have been released this gen and it only looks like it's getting better.

The thing the unreal engine excels at is mapping. The models aren't very advanced but because of bumps, specular, normals etc.. they manage to make some pretty impressive stuff..

Personally I'm not all for unreal engine games because they tend to have a look that crosses over. I don't mind them, but they don't really give me as much satisfaction visually as some propriatory engines. That's just me though. I can see how other people would think differently.

 

But really where the difference lies in the ps3 and the 360, is a place where you'll only minimally be able to tell visually. I do find it impressive that sony has managed to overtake the 360 visually even though it was launched much later, but if you look at the specs, the differences in games will be things such as physics, lightning,  AI.. stuff like that. Mostly things that the processor does.

 

 



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Squilliam on 02 April 2009
786_ali said:
The guy doesn't know anything about the ps3! He says so himself. So I'd take everything he says with a bucket of salt. If KZ2 can be done on the 360 lets see the 360 do something as good or better, because games with better graphics are coming e.g Uncharted 2, GT5, Heavy Rain etc.

Maximum yawn... So what? If I wanted graphics I would play on my PC. I do have a gaming PC attached to the same TV as my PS3 so its definately doable.

 



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NNN2004 on 02 April 2009
Staude said:
selnor said:
^ The thing that springs to mind is that the 360 hasnt got any games from good developers that have gone for realistic graphics.

Big games like Halo 3, Gears 2, Mass Effect all went for art direction. KZ2 currently wins at the moment, but I bet my bottom dollar the 360 will have a couple of games that beat it's graphics this year. Mainly Alan Wake and Forza 3. Also I believe Risen will to.

Personally KZ2 is the ONLY game on PS3 that is better than 360 games. Gears 2 for me was and still has the best wow moment ever for graphics.

Mass Effect 2 will undoubtly look astonishing also. CRYEngine 3 games for 360 will also beat KZ2. But then PS3 will continue to improve as well. By the end of the gen both consoles will not outshine the other.

Like i said before. Cryengine has some good things and some bad things about it. Particular particle effects and Lightning. I don't believe what they've shown us so far outranks killzone 2.

 

Models and textures beat the hell out of it though..

 

Personally i've had the most wow moments in Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4. I'm not saying that as a "sony fan" response but that's how it is for me. For instance, there is no game with such an advanced animation system as uncharted.. and it has these beautiful visuals throughout with No loads in the game at all! Some of the best games ever have been released this gen and it only looks like it's getting better.

The thing the unreal engine excels at is mapping. The models aren't very advanced but because of bumps, specular, normals etc.. they manage to make some pretty impressive stuff..

Personally I'm not all for unreal engine games because they tend to have a look that crosses over. I don't mind them, but they don't really give me as much satisfaction visually as some propriatory engines. That's just me though. I can see how other people would think differently.

 

But really where the difference lies in the ps3 and the 360, is a place where you'll only minimally be able to tell visually. I do find it impressive that sony has managed to overtake the 360 visually even though it was launched much later, but if you look at the specs, the differences in games will be things such as physics, lightning,  AI.. stuff like that. Mostly things that the processor does.

 

 

killzone 2 have a good effects but dont forget that its have a low textures also.

 



Squilliam on 02 April 2009

don't forget that killzone 2 uses low resolution particles. definately not a strong point if you look close enough



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SpartanFX on 02 April 2009
NNN2004 said:
Staude said:
selnor said:
^ The thing that springs to mind is that the 360 hasnt got any games from good developers that have gone for realistic graphics.

Big games like Halo 3, Gears 2, Mass Effect all went for art direction. KZ2 currently wins at the moment, but I bet my bottom dollar the 360 will have a couple of games that beat it's graphics this year. Mainly Alan Wake and Forza 3. Also I believe Risen will to.

Personally KZ2 is the ONLY game on PS3 that is better than 360 games. Gears 2 for me was and still has the best wow moment ever for graphics.

Mass Effect 2 will undoubtly look astonishing also. CRYEngine 3 games for 360 will also beat KZ2. But then PS3 will continue to improve as well. By the end of the gen both consoles will not outshine the other.

Like i said before. Cryengine has some good things and some bad things about it. Particular particle effects and Lightning. I don't believe what they've shown us so far outranks killzone 2.

 

Models and textures beat the hell out of it though..

 

Personally i've had the most wow moments in Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4. I'm not saying that as a "sony fan" response but that's how it is for me. For instance, there is no game with such an advanced animation system as uncharted.. and it has these beautiful visuals throughout with No loads in the game at all! Some of the best games ever have been released this gen and it only looks like it's getting better.

The thing the unreal engine excels at is mapping. The models aren't very advanced but because of bumps, specular, normals etc.. they manage to make some pretty impressive stuff..

Personally I'm not all for unreal engine games because they tend to have a look that crosses over. I don't mind them, but they don't really give me as much satisfaction visually as some propriatory engines. That's just me though. I can see how other people would think differently.

 

But really where the difference lies in the ps3 and the 360, is a place where you'll only minimally be able to tell visually. I do find it impressive that sony has managed to overtake the 360 visually even though it was launched much later, but if you look at the specs, the differences in games will be things such as physics, lightning,  AI.. stuff like that. Mostly things that the processor does.

 

 

killzone 2 have a good effects but dont forget that its have a low textures also.

 

 

lol,,,no it doesn't



 

 

 

selnor on 02 April 2009
Staude said:
selnor said:
^ The thing that springs to mind is that the 360 hasnt got any games from good developers that have gone for realistic graphics.

Big games like Halo 3, Gears 2, Mass Effect all went for art direction. KZ2 currently wins at the moment, but I bet my bottom dollar the 360 will have a couple of games that beat it's graphics this year. Mainly Alan Wake and Forza 3. Also I believe Risen will to.

Personally KZ2 is the ONLY game on PS3 that is better than 360 games. Gears 2 for me was and still has the best wow moment ever for graphics.

Mass Effect 2 will undoubtly look astonishing also. CRYEngine 3 games for 360 will also beat KZ2. But then PS3 will continue to improve as well. By the end of the gen both consoles will not outshine the other.

Like i said before. Cryengine has some good things and some bad things about it. Particular particle effects and Lightning. I don't believe what they've shown us so far outranks killzone 2.

 

Models and textures beat the hell out of it though..

 

Personally i've had the most wow moments in Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4. I'm not saying that as a "sony fan" response but that's how it is for me. For instance, there is no game with such an advanced animation system as uncharted.. and it has these beautiful visuals throughout with No loads in the game at all! Some of the best games ever have been released this gen and it only looks like it's getting better.

The thing the unreal engine excels at is mapping. The models aren't very advanced but because of bumps, specular, normals etc.. they manage to make some pretty impressive stuff..

Personally I'm not all for unreal engine games because they tend to have a look that crosses over. I don't mind them, but they don't really give me as much satisfaction visually as some propriatory engines. That's just me though. I can see how other people would think differently.

 

But really where the difference lies in the ps3 and the 360, is a place where you'll only minimally be able to tell visually. I do find it impressive that sony has managed to overtake the 360 visually even though it was launched much later, but if you look at the specs, the differences in games will be things such as physics, lightning,  AI.. stuff like that. Mostly things that the processor does.

 

 

I see your point. You also have to remember on things like lighting and effects that the 360 GPU can do some effects that DX10 provides. Something that the PS3 just doesnt and never will have the ability to do. So it's catch 22. Some things PS3 will do better and some things 360 will do better. I mean when it's all said and done basically there will be a minor difference at best as you said, The majority of us just wont be able to tell.

It wont be like the difference between Xbox 1 and PS2. :)

 



markers on 02 April 2009

killzone 2 can not be done on the 360



SpartanFX on 02 April 2009
markers said:
killzone 2 can not be done on the 360

 

hell no  :P



 

 

 

NNN2004 on 02 April 2009
SpartanFX said:
NNN2004 said:
Staude said:
selnor said:
^ The thing that springs to mind is that the 360 hasnt got any games from good developers that have gone for realistic graphics.

Big games like Halo 3, Gears 2, Mass Effect all went for art direction. KZ2 currently wins at the moment, but I bet my bottom dollar the 360 will have a couple of games that beat it's graphics this year. Mainly Alan Wake and Forza 3. Also I believe Risen will to.

Personally KZ2 is the ONLY game on PS3 that is better than 360 games. Gears 2 for me was and still has the best wow moment ever for graphics.

Mass Effect 2 will undoubtly look astonishing also. CRYEngine 3 games for 360 will also beat KZ2. But then PS3 will continue to improve as well. By the end of the gen both consoles will not outshine the other.

Like i said before. Cryengine has some good things and some bad things about it. Particular particle effects and Lightning. I don't believe what they've shown us so far outranks killzone 2.

 

Models and textures beat the hell out of it though..

 

Personally i've had the most wow moments in Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4. I'm not saying that as a "sony fan" response but that's how it is for me. For instance, there is no game with such an advanced animation system as uncharted.. and it has these beautiful visuals throughout with No loads in the game at all! Some of the best games ever have been released this gen and it only looks like it's getting better.

The thing the unreal engine excels at is mapping. The models aren't very advanced but because of bumps, specular, normals etc.. they manage to make some pretty impressive stuff..

Personally I'm not all for unreal engine games because they tend to have a look that crosses over. I don't mind them, but they don't really give me as much satisfaction visually as some propriatory engines. That's just me though. I can see how other people would think differently.

 

But really where the difference lies in the ps3 and the 360, is a place where you'll only minimally be able to tell visually. I do find it impressive that sony has managed to overtake the 360 visually even though it was launched much later, but if you look at the specs, the differences in games will be things such as physics, lightning,  AI.. stuff like that. Mostly things that the processor does.

 

 

killzone 2 have a good effects but dont forget that its have a low textures also.

 

 

lol,,,no it doesn't

this is an old photo to hype the game but if you take a photo from the real game you will see the low textures clearly ... can you post a photo from your tv ?