Yeah I hear ya. I mean I love my consoles, and spend about half of my gaming time on them. But I wouldn't in a million years start a flameware about which console has better graphics. Its just stupid in the face of far better graphics. And frankly with how expensive consoles have become this gen buying a nice PC is not as much of an investment as it was back in the day.

avery, aimen brotha. I think this mgiht be my last generation with them myself. It is getting out of hand retail wise for what they are meant for....gaming.....

Next will be hand held for most likely

I wouldn't say that PS3 fans are in denial, more so that it is a unfounded claim. We just wont know till the 360 pulls a game out of it's ass that looks as good as killzone 2. Can the PS3 produce better graphics then the 360?YES! Proof? Killzone! Can the 360 handle Killzone 2? We dont know and probably never will.

The way I see it, 360 started out with spectacular graphics. Since it's inception I have not seen much of a graphical difference simply because it started off on such a high note. Gears1 and 2 are a good example. There was very little graphical difference in the ingame models. Nevertheless, it didn't need any huge overhaul because it was already top notch. When it comes to the PS3, it was a little more uneven because of development difficulty with the hardware. YOu have one of the best looking games of all time, Uncharted, on one hand while on the other you get stuff like Haze which is bland. Now the PS3 is at a steady growth rate with technological progression. Most commonly being seen in the PS3's graphics department.

We shall see where these two system's graphical limits takes them later this year with Halo ODST, Heavy Rain, Alan Wake?, and Uncharted 2. These will be the elite graphical powerhouses of this year after KZ2.

killzone 2 could be easly done on the 360. and the game that will prove the 360 can easly do "killzone 2" is alan wake and i am sure others will show up that we wont see coming.

How do you even know that Alan Wake's graphics are worth comparing to KZ2?? Have we seen gameplay footage?No. All we have seen are a few clips/pics which can not be used to form a comparison

 Wow, Dotn get me wrong I think and hope the Alan wake is beautiful.  But untill there is some hardcore evidence that is it going to be amazing.  -80's slogan "Com'onnnnnnnnn?"

To tell you the truth I like to see them battling out like this.  I want better games coming out just because of the otherwants to be the one upper in design!

My friend's neighbor told me that crysis on ultra high can easily be done on PS3 by changing the programing a little bit.

see i can make up foolish claims without backing it up just like this.X360 is getting close to 4 years old and not a single game comes close to what PS3 did when it was 2 years and 2 months old(or a year and 9 months in Europe's case)

The best thing is that the graphics are improving with every game as devs become more comfortable, I can see the PS3 competing with NextBox in terms of gfx.

Lol. Anyone who thinks that either the 360 or PS3 won't easily surpass Killzone 2 in graphics in the future is either kidding...or an idiot.

The PS3 can surpass KZ2's gfx, it already has with Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain. However, I have my doubts about the 360. imo it has reached its peak, gfx wise, with GeOW 2 and perhaps Alan Wake.