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Stats87 said:
RAZurrection said:
Max King of the Wild said:
RAZurrection said:

Sure, you won't see footage of Modern Warfare 2 until June, and that's going to outsell every PS3 exclusive.

No, Uncharted is another Resistance/Motorstorm, excessively bundled, then the sequel tries to stand on its own and fails massively.

Heavy Rain has bomb written all over it, it's a Quantic Dream game and it's a 1st party PS3 game, both of which have a history of underperforming at retail.

If anything MS 1st party is well ahead of Sonys, Forza is a bigger series than anything Sonys launching this year and Halo is in a league of its own, that#s the PS3's biggest problem. A lack of blockbusters, it's mostly fillers, Sony just likes to pretend it's blockbuster.

 


lol you dirty troll. talking about uncharted bundles then conveniently leaving out the fact forza 2 was the heaviest bundled game this gen (besides wii sports/play)

Forza 2 topped 2.1 million without bundles, can Uncharted say the same?

 

 

 

Well, I assume that 2.1M is shipped to retailer, not sold to customer. Uncharted has 2.32M sold to customer according to VGChartz and was bundled very recently, so the actual non-bundled/sold to customer sales are probably quite close. Forza also came out 6 months eariler then Uncharted to a much bigger install base and a genre that was pretty starved at the time.

Plus, those numbers you provided are kinda old

As per the data.

  • Numbers are based on official records from NPD and information provided to Next-Gen by publishers. Publicly available data and analysis was also taken into account, as well as dead reckoning and sanity checking from the Next-Gen staff when exact counts (such as unified sales data for Europe) were difficult to corroborate, conflicting, or unavailable.
  • Numbers take into account only titles released and sold between March 1, 2007 and March 1, 2008. Each game only had to be released in one western territory to be included.
  • Numbers take into account North America and Western Europe only.
  • Numbers represent retail sales only.
  • Pack-in titles were not counted.
  • Older games re-released in the last year were only included if they included significant changes beyond a lower price. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition is an example of the former (thanks to its new control scheme). Hitman Trilogy, a collection of three Hitman games with no content changes, would be an example of the latter.

And you're wrong about Uncharted, Sony's been bundling it since December 15th 2007, nary a month after it was released.

Plus VGC includes bundles in its figures, hence Wii Sports at 45 million+

Max King of the Wild said:

the date on that article is 08. FM2 was bunled in 07

Uh...yes. Given it's an article about  "The Top 100 Selling Games of the Last 12 Months" it would probably have to be after 2007, but as you can see, bundles are not counted so it's not really relevant.

 

 

 

 

 



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guys go to 'compare game' section of this websit put in forza motorsport 2- x360 put number of week 24 and prepare to laugh.

hint -you can see exactly when bundles started



Dark Chaos said:
RAZurrection said:
MetalGearSolid_4ever said:

Do 360 fans in this thread believe that a game announced in June at E3 will ship before december?

Uncharted 2 alone is better than the 360 fall line up. Heavy Rain looks unreal and will not be a "haze". New R & C looks good. We don't know anything about MAG though.

MS heavily relies on 3rd party exclusives because they don't have the first party strength that Sony does.

Sure, you won't see footage of Modern Warfare 2 until June, and that's going to outsell every PS3 exclusive.

No, Uncharted is another Resistance/Motorstorm, excessively bundled, then the sequel tries to stand on its own and fails massively.

Heavy Rain has bomb written all over it, it's a Quantic Dream game and it's a 1st party PS3 game, both of which have a history of underperforming at retail.

If anything MS 1st party is well ahead of Sonys, Forza is a bigger series than anything Sonys launching this year and Halo is in a league of its own, that#s the PS3's biggest problem. A lack of blockbusters, it's mostly fillers, Sony just likes to pretend it's blockbuster.

 

 

This.

PS3 fans said this last year with LBP, R2, Motorstorm 2, Socom but they all got outsold badly by MS exclusives.

 

 Who said anything about sales? Gran Turismo is best selling PlayStation game, and it doubled the sales of Halo franchise. (25 -50m). You are just trying to change the subject.

''Hey we don't know if 360 is gonna have good lineup this year, but that doesn't matter because 360 games are selling better and that's all it matters. So lets all change the subject'''

 

 

 

 



A. who the hell is next-gen? if next-genwars.com its becoming laughable.

B. "numbers based off publishers blah blah' AKA SHIPPED AKA INCLUDES BUNDLES



Max King of the Wild said:
guys go to 'compare game' section of this websit put in forza motorsport 2- x360 put number of week 24 and prepare to laugh.

hint -you can see exactly when bundles started

 

Oh this is quite funny too.

20. Forza Motorsport 2
X360 Exclusive
2.1M

65. Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune
PS3 Exclusive
730K

3:1 sales

 

And to think, Uncharted was a Holiday game as well.



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RAZurrection said:
Max King of the Wild said:
guys go to 'compare game' section of this websit put in forza motorsport 2- x360 put number of week 24 and prepare to laugh.

hint -you can see exactly when bundles started

 

Oh this is quite funny too.

20. Forza Motorsport 2
X360 Exclusive
2.1M

65. Uncharted: Drake?s Fortune
PS3 Exclusive
730K

3:1 sales

 

And to think, Uncharted was a Holiday game as well.


forza 2 packed in with every elite and pro model uncharted not. forza may release uncharted not



"lol you dirty troll."

lol Funny!



Max King of the Wild said:
RAZurrection said:
Max King of the Wild said:
guys go to 'compare game' section of this websit put in forza motorsport 2- x360 put number of week 24 and prepare to laugh.

hint -you can see exactly when bundles started

 

Oh this is quite funny too.

20. Forza Motorsport 2
X360 Exclusive
2.1M

65. Uncharted: Drake?s Fortune
PS3 Exclusive
730K

3:1 sales

 

And to think, Uncharted was a Holiday game as well.


forza 2 packed in with every elite and pro model uncharted not. forza may release uncharted not

Dont NPD numbers show non bundled sales?

http://www.edge-online.com/features/the-top-100-selling-games-last-12-months?page=0%2C8

Forza 2 did 2.1 mill without bundles I believe.

 



^ npd shows usa only data no way forza did 2.1million usa alone.

publisher data includes bundles.

these guys are contradicting themselves.

vgc always adjusts after npd. no way in hell brett missed 1 million sales before bundles were made availble... unless you are saying brett undertracked forza by 100% and ignored gfk chart track and npd when they implied he was wrong



The first Forza sold 1 million copies, and Forza 2 sold 4 million. If the trend continues Forza 3 will sell 7 million copies and challenge Gran Turismo 5 in sales.