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Megadude said:
Bitmap Frogs said:


Right, because these franchises are now being shared. As Resi 5 recently demonstrated, both consoles get upticks from the shared franquee marchises. Final Fantasy won't be any different. 

By the way, the so called compression only has an effect on sound and CGI. Remember to display textures a console needs to load them, which means blu-ray means jack'n'shit. Gameplay assets (including in-engine rendered cutscenes) will remain unaffected by the disc format.

 

 There is a difference between a movie file that was created with a games engine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2-swSqw2pY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhrIY1NApDs

And an actual ingame cutscene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J7VNEFNjWw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sMOTRNAdLs

 

Don't get it twisted. The movie file uses much more memory.

And we've all seen RE 5 run so much smoother on 360 when theres only 2 enemies onscreen vs. 15 on PS3. As if a comparison mattered. RE5 was not built for PS3 from the ground up it was a multiplat port from day one.

 

Wow, you really went off-topic there. So many things bother you... lost exclusivities, better looking games on the 360... at this point you'd be happier just to move forward and own one.

You don't need to justify why the ps3 version is inferior. Just own a 360 and enjoy the superior version. 

 





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Bitmap Frogs said:
Megadude said:
Bitmap Frogs said:


Right, because these franchises are now being shared. As Resi 5 recently demonstrated, both consoles get upticks from the shared franquee marchises. Final Fantasy won't be any different. 

By the way, the so called compression only has an effect on sound and CGI. Remember to display textures a console needs to load them, which means blu-ray means jack'n'shit. Gameplay assets (including in-engine rendered cutscenes) will remain unaffected by the disc format.

 

 There is a difference between a movie file that was created with a games engine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2-swSqw2pY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhrIY1NApDs

And an actual ingame cutscene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J7VNEFNjWw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sMOTRNAdLs

 

Don't get it twisted. The movie file uses much more memory.

And we've all seen RE 5 run so much smoother on 360 when theres only 2 enemies onscreen vs. 15 on PS3. As if a comparison mattered. RE5 was not built for PS3 from the ground up it was a multiplat port from day one.

 

Wow, you really went off-topic there. So many things bother you... lost exclusivities, better looking games on the 360... at this point you'd be happier just to move forward and own one.

You don't need to justify why the ps3 version is inferior. Just own a 360 and enjoy the superior version. 

 

No thanks. You go ahead with your bootleg Mii avatar and continue to hand cash over for online gaming. And enjoy your HD-DVD player.

 



Bitmap Frogs said:
BTFeather55 said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
BTFeather55 said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
BTFeather55 said:

Even though it won't be crippled just the dvd version rather than the blu-ray version, after the PS3 version sales a million + units in Japan later this year, the only thing the 360 version will really have any affect upon is adding a little more money to Square's coffers. It won't alter any success that the PS3 might have if the game was an exclusive worldwide. Other exclusives coming to the PS3 as a result of the game's sales in Japan like NG Sigma II will offset that.

 

Wrong. In the west, Final Fantasy is a major franchise. Being multiplatform, the uptick it will generate in hardware sales will be split.

In Japan however, things will be different. It'll be interesting to see if Final Fantasy can resurrect the ps3. Second runners have never caught up over there, ever. 

      We've seen three classic franchises in the past few months receive better sales in the West on PS3 than on 360.  Tomb Raider Underworld, Resident Evil 5, and Street Fighter IV have all sold better in the West on PS3 than they have on 360.  I would expect a game built from the ground up for PS3 then compressed to run on 360 would pretty much follow the same pattern. 

 

 

Right, because these franchises are now being shared. As Resi 5 recently demonstrated, both consoles get upticks from the shared franquee marchises. Final Fantasy won't be any different. 

By the way, the so called compression only has an effect on sound and CGI. Remember to display textures a console needs to load them, which means blu-ray means jack'n'shit. Gameplay assets (including in-engine rendered cutscenes) will remain unaffected by the disc format.

     Yeah, but the only reason to play jrpgs is for the cutscenes that tell the story and to hear compisitions from the like of Uematsu.  So, if you don't have the best versions of the cutscenes and the best version of the music you're missing out on 80% of the most important aspects of jrpgs in general and Final Fantasy games in particular  

 

 

Keep telling you that. How many thousands of dollars have you invested in speakers and amps? You not only need a discerning ear but also a really good rig to discern uncompressed audio. I do own and have tested audiophile-grade and sound-studio grade equipment and I tell you some benefits of uncompressed audio are even lost on high end gear because of built-in frequency cut-off.

But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

     No, they don't.  Anybody with a $1,000 hd tv can tell that the blu-ray version of The Dark Knight looks and sounds better than the compressed dvd version.

     Heck, Itagaki said that when making DoA on 360 the size of the intro movie in a quality that would have been acceptable to him was going to take up 2 gig of the 9 gig disc size.  Now that was just the 2 minute DoA intro movie running in HD, imagine how much space 5 to 10 hours or more of cutscenes in FFXIII ( which was probably about how long the cutscenes were in X and XII) would take up on those discs.

 

 

 



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XxXProphecyXxX said:
LOL...."FF13 to use 100% of ps3's disc space"

All part of the mandatory install LOL.....

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