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elprincipe on 31 March 2009

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Interesting graphs.  You know they are from NASA GISS (Goddard Institute of Space Studies), right?  You might also be interested in how these measurements have been adjusted by NASA over time:

Now, I am not convinced one way or the other on global warming (sorry, I'm not going to now call it "climate change" since the climate has always changed), but this is definitely something to consider and think about.



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Kuro_Neko_13 on 31 March 2009
halogamer1989 said:
Global warming is a lie. We contribute some and need to clean up more but the atmosphere is like 1 percent carbon. Anyone heard of volcanoes? How about the cyclical nature of solar output. Hears something Gore and friends don't tell you: Mars' ice caps are melting, Jupiter's composition is changing as well as melting of it's icy moons, and many other solar system bodies are melting. Also, they leave out the Mini Ice Age in their calculations.

QFT.

 



Kuro_Neko_13 on 31 March 2009
elprincipe said:

@theRepublic

Interesting graphs.  You know they are from NASA GISS (Goddard Institute of Space Studies), right?  You might also be interested in how these measurements have been adjusted by NASA over time:

Now, I am not convinced one way or the other on global warming (sorry, I'm not going to now call it "climate change" since the climate has always changed), but this is definitely something to consider and think about.

 

Nice.



im_sneaky on 31 March 2009

What about the 100s of graphs and articles saying global warming is true. Are they all false?



 

 

Nirvana_Nut85 on 31 March 2009
im_sneaky said:
What about the 100s of graphs and articles saying global warming is true. Are they all false?

 

 You could say the same about the hundreds of graphs and articles that say global warming isn't man made. Are they false.

Or how about the 31,000 scientists that signed thier name to the petition to dispute man made global warming?

http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000-scientists-disagree/



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im_sneaky on 31 March 2009
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
im_sneaky said:
What about the 100s of graphs and articles saying global warming is true. Are they all false?

 

 You could say the same about the hundreds of graphs and articles that say global warming isn't man made. Are they false.

Or how about the 31,000 scientists that signed thier name to the petition to dispute man made global warming?

http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000-scientists-disagree/

And the tons of scientists who say global warming is true. Are they all false?

 



 

 

Kuro_Neko_13 on 31 March 2009

^Tons? you want to put up some links? because your argument is lacking it, while your opponent isn't...



theRepublic on 03 April 2009
elprincipe said:

@theRepublic

Interesting graphs.  You know they are from NASA GISS (Goddard Institute of Space Studies), right?  You might also be interested in how these measurements have been adjusted by NASA over time:

Now, I am not convinced one way or the other on global warming (sorry, I'm not going to now call it "climate change" since the climate has always changed), but this is definitely something to consider and think about.

The changes were discussed very thoroughly in a paper in 2001:

Hansen, J.E., R. Ruedy, Mki. Sato, M. Imhoff, W. Lawrence, D. Easterling, T. Peterson, and T. Karl, 2001: A closer look at United States and global surface temperature change. J. Geophys. Res., 106, 23947-23963, doi:10.1029/2001JD000354.

http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abstracts/2001/Hansen_etal.html

They are due mostly to: corrections from NOAA related to time of observation bias, homogeneity adjustments to the records (to account for station moves etc.) and improvements to the urban heat island corrections.

Nothing underhanded going on at all.



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Kuro_Neko_13 on 03 April 2009

^ That's what they want you to think... Go on... do what they tell ya...



theRepublic on 03 April 2009
Kuro_Neko_13 said:
^ That's what they want you to think... Go on... do what they tell ya...

You are the person who still believes Halogamer after I posted everything that was wrong with his statement.  You are the one not being logical.



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