how is it inferior ? speed ?. but it's Scratch Resistant another way it's physically superior.:p

the comunist are back.

Value? People just want a friggin video game console. They make a much cheaper and capable machine called a PC nowadays. Sony wants people to look at the machine for everything it offers but in reality the masses just want a machine that makes pretty games. With that said you can get an XBox 360 for $200 bucks and be a pig in shit.

if you are poor you can get a 360arcade version if you are in between you get the 360pro, if you have plenty of money get the 360Elite....what about for ps3? work harder or rob a bank!!!

The value of a console comes from one thing, and only one: the games it plays. The rest is all fluff: minor conveniences, perhaps, but nothing capable of adding real value.

Well you can drop $200 for the Arcade version and you'll essentially get the same gaming experience. The only reason you need a hard drive is if you want to play old Xbox games or download online content. Most 360 owners do neither of those things.

We love bells and whistles but the masses just want a video game console to do some basic gaming.

And has the same graphics.

The only thing that holds water in the argument is online you have to pay for. And also, you don't need the HDD if you are going to keep the console offline.

It was also funny to see how Sony doesn't think Wii as competition despite it molesting the market. Well, it's their loss.

The problem with the value argument is that people get these devices first and foremost to play games with it. Which is proved by Wii sales.

@Haxxiy: You mix up BD and HD-DVD. HD-DVD was region free, while BD has three regions. DVD has 8 regions, not nine. And what do video regions have to do with games?

Nothing is stopping DVD from having the same coating. After all, physically the discs are pretty much the same. Although, if the disc scratches despite the coating, it's causing more damage than similar scratch on DVD.

@City17: How did BD protect from piracy? As far as i know, the most effective way is to have effective encryption. Besides, by taking so big hit on sales, BD have caused more damage than piracy would have.

I think a lot of times the general public sees the price, and not the value of a console in the long terms, as a buying tool.

I own all 3 of the consoles and, imo, I think that the Xbox 360 should have wi-fi built in, just in case if someone wanted to use in the future. Microsoft charging an extra $80 (if it's on sale) to $100 extra for something that even the Wii comes with standard is a tad bit much. The main reason I bought a PS3 is because of the FREE online, even if it's not up to par with XBL, blu-ray disc player, built in wi-fi, and reliability.

All of the features that the PS3 has that the Xbox 360 doesn't gives reason for the value argument. However, for me this hold true, for the casual gamer it may not. It all depends on what that specific person wants and needs.

Well if it’s a long term issue than consumers can just wait until it truly demonstrates its superiority over the 360 and is cheaper.

I definitely have a huge problem with the price gouging Microsoft does for the accessories. But at least you have the option of purchasing them. Sony has probably sold more hard-drives and wifi adapters than Microsoft because Sony didn’t give people an option.

Now if my Xbox 360 were to break I could get an Arcade console, or a cheap used one and just apply my accessories to it. When it comes to the PS3 though I basically have to drop another $400. You won't save much buying an older used PS3 either because those are actually in demand.