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Naraku_Diabolos on 26 March 2009
ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
the mark about "rts" games not being done or a success on the console side , he should get into "halo wars". because m$ has proven them wrong. also final fantasy 11 has been a success on the console side too, either he is not knowing his facts or blizzard is lazy.

Final Fantasy XI on the X360 runs pretty smoothly. The PS2 version has been discontinued. My friend on the game has the PS2 version loaded onto his PS3 and says it looks more like utter shit than it did on the PS2. Since programming for the X360 is more akin to PC programming, it's no wonder that porting FFXI onto it was easier and the game looks A LOT better. My PC version ranks with a higher end version of a PS2 port, but that's only in older areas of the game (mainly where you start out at and work in, which are the main and key areas of the game), but when you go to one of the newer areas in the game, the PC version of FFXI is more akin to the graphics of the X360 version.



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TRios_Zen on 26 March 2009
joshin69 said:

TRios_Zen
Sorry i don't have a 360 so i didn't know you could surf the net and watch TV (with TV play)

 

*Sorry that sounded a little sharp, I just thought that the definition of a media centre is a point where all your media entertainment is centred. watch films, TV, listen to music, surf the net, e-mail and play games which i all do on my PS3 so does that not make it a true media centre?

**I'm not saying well done *pat on back* because although it was what i wanted its obvious that it wasn't what the majority of gamers wanted. I'm just saying that if MS do go down this route (which I'm not convinced, I think they would rather have the PC under the TV) then a lot of the flak that Sony got for not just making a games machine would look quite, i don't know, short sighted.

If you have a computer with a TV card, you can watch TV through Windows Media Center on the 360 and MS has deliberatly chosen NOT to include a browser.  Your forgiven for not knowing that, because, well you don't have a 360...

Don't worry about being sharp, a difference of opinions is what we have and that doesn't mean we have to hate each other.  I am still not convinced that the inclusion of a browser makes the PS3 *that* much more of a media player, but it isn't that big of a deal. 

Now if you are arguing your last point (bolded), that is a different story, isnt it?  ...and not how I read your original comment.

 



786_ali on 26 March 2009

so if MS talk to a game dev, Blizzard, it means they aren't concentrating on games?



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Demotruk on 26 March 2009
786_ali said:
so if MS talk to a game dev, Blizzard, it means they aren't concentrating on games?

 

 

They expected them to be talking to more than just one.

Personally I think it's a positive sign, Blizzard have been making extremely successful games that just have not had really successful equivilants on consoles. Microsoft talking to Blizzard means they're trying to break down the barriers for those sorts of games on consoles, a good thing in my opinion.



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joshin69 on 26 March 2009

TRios_Zen
The Bolded was the point i was trying to make but quite badly.

786_ali
For me it would mean they are focusing on what a machine would need to be to be able to run the likes of WoW comfortably for both developer & customer with out making concessions. Somehow we've ended up on the old chestnut of front room media domination.
Perhaps it would be better for all if Sony & MS buried the hatchet and got into bed with each other, never gonna happen though.



 

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Darc Requiem on 26 March 2009
mike_intellivision said:
The question that must be answered is what do people want and expect from their video game consoles.

So far, no console that has tried to be more than a console has reached "mainstream success" (though the Xbox 360 is getting close -- see note below) and some have failed miserably (see 3DO, Nuon, etc.).

Most people buy game machines to buy games. Nintendo held that belief more firmly than the other two companies this generation and has prospered (and even it allows for Internet browsing and video streaming is/may be coming).

MMORPGs make a lot of money on subscriptions. But MMORPGs and RTS games played by a small but active and vocal minority of gamers. Catering to them -- and not attending to the needs of the others -- could be a bad long-term strategy. Hopefully, Microsoft is looking to expand its reach rather than limit it.

Mike from Morgantown

I define "mainstream success" with a low bar -- reaching the sales of the Atari 2600 -- approximately 30M worldwide lifetime.

Under such a definition, only the 2600, NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, and Wii have reached that pinnacle. That is one game console per generation. When the Xbox 360 reaches it soon, it will mark the first time that two consoles from the same generation has had such a level of success (and the PS3 will probably make it all three consoles in 2010).

As for handhelds, only the GB, GBA, DS and PSP have reached this level. Again, this is the first generation that there has been more than one product with a large install base (and the PSP is the first non-Nintendo product to achieve this among handhelds. People forget that there have been a multitude of handheld systems that Nintendo completely dominated prior to the PSP).

Also, for the sake of this discussion, I am only considering units that are game machines first. Thus no PCs and no cell phones and no music players. (Sorry Apple, your only entry is the Pippin).

The Sega Genesis/Mega Drive and N64 both hit the 30 million mark. The Genesis was just at the mark and the N64 sold nearly 33 million units. I agree with your post, just wanted to point that out.

 



heruamon on 26 March 2009

The writing is on the wall...Blizard is making a move into consoles, and maybe we will see the Protoss game of SC on the next box, but I'm looking more at the next Diablo...it would be a perfect first game for a console release...Porting it from the PC to the 360 will require almost no extra effort...win-win!



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Pristine20 on 26 March 2009

WoW on next-box confirmed. That would sell gazillions!



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