This is ridiculous. 22,000 GBP is like 40,000 CDN(Which is a good take home after taxes) . Shit If the government will give you that over there for being fat lazy pieces of shit, then I'm gaining a hundred and 60 pounds and getting my biritish citizenship,lol.

The fact that they're complaining about how much they get and saying "it isn't fair" is what really pisses me off. I mean, people like that should be left to fend for themselves. Instead of giving them a hand out the government should cut them off so that they'll be forced to work.

22,000 GBP is more then i've made some years when i've worked 40+ hours a week.

Everything might cost a lot more in Great Britian though due to being socialized.

That's like $30,000 in the US

and used to be 40,000 before the UK hit it's monsterous financial troubles.

Bold - You've never been to Britain have you.

Italics - it was only because ever $40,000 because the American economy was extremely shit and the dollar was worth nothing. If you look at it, historically the disparity beteween our two currencies has never been much. Then a sudden drop occured that destroyed the dollar and it has yet to recover in reality. It's a shame our economy followed yours :-p

The pound historically was 2 to 1... or close to it. I used to pay for British MUD back when i was in highschool.

Even 1.5 is 30,000.  That is a lot.

The UKs economy has always been bad though... or rather set up for failure.

I mean the last decade was the only time people weren't talking about how the Uk "lives above it's means".

It's been a consistant theme since.. at least world war 1.

I've worked with fatter people in restaurants, as waitresses, waiters, foodrunners, and bartenders. They were on their feet all day moving around and making money. These people can work.

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Was your point misrepresented?  You said that some fat people are that way because they are mentally ill.  And therefore shouldn't be blamed for being fat. 

Ignoring the fact that with healthcare such people would be treated for such depression.

People who a fat because they are depressed are still fat because they refuse treatment.

As far as i can tell you are of the position that if someone says...

"I'm not going to work."

and that's the only reason they don't want to work they should still get full government unemployment benefits and healthcare.

Hmm, you are right about it being 2-1, but this graph shows that they were very close during the late 90's and early 00's which is when I would have noticed due to my age so from my perspective I guess it seems like that was the case. Sorry Kasz, I was very mistaken.

I don't agree that the economy is set up to fail, the service industry is primarily bank oriented so that is living dangerously as times like these will show, but it has been a decent performing economy in times of prosperity. You can't always have growth, you have to have recession too and this is what makes us look bad now, but we will recover... I bet switzerland or UAE aren't doint to hot right now either.

...Oh and for the debt after WWI, we were rich before then but that war cost a looooot of mullah and it's been hard to recover, especially after WWII as well.

I need to kind of agree with Kasz on this one. The biggest problem with accomplishing what Kasz says is a medical group needs to come up and characterize a disease called obesity. They then need to come up with a set of measures needed to cure the disease. Stop treating the effects of the disease, but treat the disease.

I don't think these people should be denied healthcare or a living allowance, but should be funneled through a medical program designed around treating diseases. They should be allowed all the money they need to live, but should be required to treat a perfectly curable disease.

Obesity is a symptom, not a disease, so you can't just 'cure' it in everyone with a one -solution-fixes-all kind of approach.

Admittedly without knowing all the facts, my first impression with these people is that they need to lose their entitlement complex and go out and get a job.

But forcing or coercing medical care of any kind on any people for any reason and you are on the top of a very slippery slope.