Think about the games you're talking about in context, seriously. How well did Suda51 games do before NMH? They were all cult classics that sold terribly. NMH outsold his previous games by a huge amount. And Madworld could do quite well for what it is, we don't know yet.

Offcourse they don't. Have you seen the quality of games 3rd party has put out on the Wii? Those that had reasonably good attempts have sold 500K plus.

I'm a kid?? YAY

Guess the Wii is "the fountain of youth" then....

Damn didn't know Nintendo could be that powerful

This is not what we are asking. We are asking for respect towards our medium of choice. If George Lucas hates making programs for television, so be it. But don't be a little bitch and cry about it when Lost get's more critical praise ánd followers then the latest Star Wars Saga.

I concur.

 Sterotype me all you want and curse and rip the pubes out of your nutsack for all I care. Guess what I am a Wii owner as well as a PS3 owner so yes I will enjoy my 50th shooter as well as any Wii game I please. Pwned.

Maybe that's not what you are asking.

But how many times have we read comments on the lines of "those producers are so stupid... instead of doing that game for the HD consoles they should have done two for the Wii and they would have costed half as much" and "I'm glad if the economic downturn will push them to make simpler games".

Btw, I think having a "medium of choice" is restrictive. I like good books, good tv, good comics and good movies.

There are great Wii games. I don't see why every developer that doesn't want to go the Wii way, should. Maybe they find it resrictive for the wrong reasons, maybe they are being elitists. Who cares? The Wii has its Joss Whedons, stop asking every movie director to start working on tv... most of them wouldn't be good at it anyway.

I should have said one of our mediums of choice. I too enjoy a wide variety of media from books to films to videogames. Hell, I even enjoy playing HD videogames. Wanated himself is creating this dichotomy between the Wii and HD consoles, clearly marking his territory to one medium of choice. That's fine, at least to me, but at least word it right, and with proper arguements as his claims have been debunked over and over already.

As for the comments you stated on wii development... that is some users. Generalizations go both ways. I think that a dev should do what he likes. BUT - to some dev's with less resources spreading a risk can be more helpfull.

I don't think you get what a paradigm shift is then. Paradigm shifts aren't evolution, but a complete shift in thought. A move sideways is accurate to a paradigm shift. It's just that the new path will go farther and stronger while the other will continue on the path.

Second I think you might have missed the meaning of the "move sideways". It's not in relation to what games are produced, but in relation on how to sell the same games to the bigger market.

I'm aware of applying the Hollywood model to gaming. It's not entirely accurate though in it's use in regards to my written post. I'm not talking about how Howholly wood makes movies. I'm more referring to the Theatres that shows the movies and how it relates. In Canada here our 2 biggest movie franchises have had serious problems. Cineplex Odion and Famous Players. Odion wen down first having to pull back and restructure due to how the Movie industry made movies and seemed to up the cost of playing feel? Famous Players went along the same traditional values. Bigger and Better. So they made the Silver Cities, but you ended up paying more per movie. They believed that it was more worth it so they past the costs down the to customer. Well by the end of the day both companies were bought out by a us company.

The Theaters rather than finding an established way to present the movies to the customers to make a better profit ended up losing out on personal control. The new owners dropped prices and continued to let older thaters to continue running rather than forcing the still increased price.

Two things could have helped our ailing movie houses. Lower Holywood rental fees or a different business model to attract more viewers earlier. If a new model was found ALL movie theaters would have seen the better results and gotten on board to continue on healthy. This would be akin to a paradigm shift in the way of thinking on how movies need to be presented to the customers.

While we often kind the Wii to TV model and HD Console to Movie model. It's not that accurate in how it's often used. It would be more accurate to judge that the HD Console is more akin to Made for TV Movies and many Wii games to TV shows. Arcades are more like their Hollywood counterpart. 

So if home console is the TV and Arcade is Hollywood. Why is Hollywood movies still around. Simple because Hollywood and Theaters can provide that TV can't and for some years never will. Big screen experience with full surround loud sound. When it comes to consoles however the mass of gamers out their, even the old ones(I mean ALL gamers including PC, handheld...) place lower value on the graphics than game play. They also value fun games more than graphical games. And they also value easy versatile input(pointer) over limited input like joysticks. So their is an inevitablity that the home game model(wii) will once again beat out the arcade model(HD console). Will their be an end. Of course not. Newtonian Law still applies, it's just now a smaller subset. Much like the Arcade is now the smaller experience of the electronic gamers.

It's not the games we play that will change. It's how we play them. Physics hasn't changed, just how we apply them.

Tomb Raider? come on man >.>; That game has long lost it's touch outside of Europe, and Okami is probably too Eastern for a lot of people as to something like Zelda: TP, not to mention it was also on the PS2, the other 2 though, I do hope they sell better because Tenchu 4 is silly fun(but there is also a PSP version sigh) while Deadly Creatures is just a very unique game with a reasonable price tag( though a lot of people hate bugs so they probably won't pick it up, not house wives at least....)