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RolStoppable said:

There is a difference between confidence and predicting how things will play out. Iwata talked a lot about the DS and how the Wii would follow a similar pattern, because both systems share similar philosphies. What Iwata said about the goal was that the Wii would obviously be seen as flop if it wouldn't beat the GC. He also said that the minimum goal for the Wii is to sell more than the PS3 (i.e. beat the console of the previous marketleader, Sony).

Sure, Sony and Microsoft were confident about their consoles, but what they said was merely what they hoped that would happen and was not based on past precedents. If they knew what they were doing, they would have realized that the launch prices for their systems are (way) too high and that most gamers don't want their consoles to be multimedia hubs (which all flopped in the mid '90s). Then there was also the mistake to focus on too many sophisticated games which once again is a losing strategy as past precedents show (Saturn and Nintendo 64).

The Pepsi/Coke analogy is about a company rethinking their strategy to gain overall leadership again. That means becoming #1.

I agree with the philosophies idea. They are very similar. But then again they are also very dissimilar.

Overall I agree with your point, but I think it is a mistake to say that people who underestimated the wii were wrong and that people who supported the wii were right simply because that is how it played out. Maybe you're not doing that, but I think a lot of people do.

I know you are going to say that people did research and all that, but the same goes for the other systems. It wasn't until the systems came out and we knew the prices and launch games and all that, that anyone coulda make a really informed argument.

 



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I think it is really between Sony and Microsoft for the win next generation. However, anything can happen next generation.



TO GOD BE THE GLORY

Aside from the RRoD, Microsoft is doing everything right. I think next gen is going to be their time to shine.



apple or sony



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

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Yes anyone with all the facts would have been able to figure it out.



RolStoppable said:

That puts the date at which someone could definitely make a good analysis of the console race somewhere into September 2006, after the Wii's launch date and price were revealed. No excuses from there on out for the people who pretend to have any knowledge about the videogames industry. That really shows how stupid many of those analysts are, especially those who still predicted the PS3 to win in 2008.

Bolded part: I already said it in my first post in this thread: The smart people are those who predicted the Wii to win AND could list at least some of the reasons why it would eventually happen.

 

 Is there any examples of peopl that did? (as early as in Sep 2006)?



I myself am shocked how people could ever say that it is a fad or that PS3 would win this gen after the consoles were released. There would have to be a miracle for that to happen.
A year ago it was slightly possible. Now it is very improbable.
The best they can hope for is a tie with MS once they get a price cut. Which is improbable in itself.
They can only hope for next gen. In which time, the novelty of the wiimote might have worn off. (I don't mean for novelty to be a diss, just that it's new and people want to own one because it represents the kind of future we see in movies and such.



RolStoppable said:
Slimebeast said:
RolStoppable said:

That puts the date at which someone could definitely make a good analysis of the console race somewhere into September 2006, after the Wii's launch date and price were revealed. No excuses from there on out for the people who pretend to have any knowledge about the videogames industry. That really shows how stupid many of those analysts are, especially those who still predicted the PS3 to win in 2008.

Bolded part: I already said it in my first post in this thread: The smart people are those who predicted the Wii to win AND could list at least some of the reasons why it would eventually happen.

 Is there any examples of peopl that did? (as early as in Sep 2006)?

http://thewiikly.zogdog.com/author.php?author=8

Not all of those are dealing with the Wii winning, but you should read at least through "Wii Fallacies" and "Why Wii Won".

Oh Malstrom, I forgot that guy exists.. is he still around writing about Nintendo?

Anyway, he didnt by any chance edit the dates of those articles in hindsight?