Way to ignore the coming tide.....
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MontanaHatchet said:
Smashchu2: Thank you for having a respectful argument. If I seemed rude either, I'm sorry. Unfortunately your friend here doesn't share the same idea. Atma: So if the PSP has been out longer, why is it still selling so much more? You could argue that the Wii will still be selling after the PSP is nearly dead, but that wouldn't matter much. The gap will get bigger and bigger before that, and by that time, the Wii's sales will likely be too low to close the gap. As for Crisis Core and Gundam, they're only small parts of the why the PSP's hardware is selling so well. Heck, the PSP just got a big boost in Japan. Was it from new colors, or the game that you so love to claim is responsible for EVERYTHING? My comparison was not ridiculous. The same thing could be said with Pokemon, Animal Crossing, and hell, another RPG, FINAL FANTASY. The best selling Final Fantasy game on a handheld is Final Fantasy III, which sold 2.27 million on the DS. Compare that to 9.72 million for Final Fantasy 7 and you start to wonder. And while you say that RPGs are the best selling games for both consoles and handhelds, that doesn't seem to be true for the Wii. Its best selling RPG in Japan is Super Paper Mario at about 580k (if you even call that game an RPG, what a disappointment).
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First of all I completely agree with Smashchu2.
Now, if I follow your logic PSP sales will always be > than Wii sales? If you take a look at numbers, the main reason why PSP got a boost in Japan is MH or maybe you prefer to believe it's a coincidence that the boost started the same week of MH release date? Now you're saying that your comparison was not ridiculous by making another even more ridiculous comparison : comparing a remake (FFIII) with the best selling FF. What's your point BTW? Finally the reason why the Wii is so low actually is precisely because there wasnt any big RPG released on this platform. MH3 and DQX are among the biggest franchises in that genre. Plus games like Wii Sports Resort and upcoming big 1st party titles can also give HUGE boost to the console and outsell PSP in the long run.
i cant understand why you mention a game like dragon quest x????THE GAME WONT BE RELEASED UNTIL LATE 2010/EARLY 2011........dragon quest is a series that has never followed an annual release plan......dragon quest ix has not yet been released....and it was announced back at 2007???so the only rpg that remains is monster hunter 3 but i believe it follows the pokemon pattern.....it is best played on a portable,however due to the hype and the name that the psp games have bulit it should be taken for granted that it will sell more than 1mln...........still i believe that it wont be as defying for the wii as it was for the psp
almost everyone that buys a psp in japan has monster hunter at his list(dont forget piracy)
i dont think that the same will happen for the wii.wii has wii sports/play/fit,will get sports resorts..those are games that they think of when the buy a wii
| NIKOS_SE said: i cant understand why you mention a game like dragon quest x????THE GAME WONT BE RELEASED UNTIL LATE 2010/EARLY 2011........dragon quest is a series that has never followed an annual release plan......dragon quest ix has not yet been released....and it was announced back at 2007???so the only rpg that remains is monster hunter 3 but i believe it follows the pokemon pattern.....it is best played on a portable,however due to the hype and the name that the psp games have bulit it should be taken for granted that it will sell more than 1mln...........still i believe that it wont be as defying for the wii as it was for the psp almost everyone that buys a psp in japan has monster hunter at his list(dont forget piracy) i dont think that the same will happen for the wii.wii has wii sports/play/fit,will get sports resorts..those are games that they think of when the buy a wii |
Because we're talking about life-time sales, not end-year results. And DQ is ALWAYS a system seller in Japan.
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ok then but lets not forget some things
1.dragon quest 7 was released for the psone in 2000 when the ps2 was already released and the psone had sold more than 17mln consoles
2.dragon quest 8 was released for the ps2 in 2004 when the ps2 had already sold around 17mln consoles
3.and now dragon quest 9 launches on ds in 2009 when ds has sold more than 25mln consoles
while i can understand a big boost in sales....i dont see it as a system seller since the series has been released when platforms had already been old and had already sold the majority of their life-time sales................
Hmmm so DQX should be coming in 2011? Let's hope that MH3 drives Wii sales up by that time, because there's no other game that has a chance besides it. Unless Nintendo has some trick up its sleeve.
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Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
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hmm...i dont think that wii gonna outsell the PSP...but its gonna be an exciting battle between the two...Wii will see some great titles in the future but the PSP too...and PSP got FF and we all know that is very important in Japan!
| NIKOS_SE said: ok then but lets not forget some things 1.dragon quest 7 was released for the psone in 2000 when the ps2 was already released and the psone had sold more than 17mln consoles 2.dragon quest 8 was released for the ps2 in 2004 when the ps2 had already sold around 17mln consoles 3.and now dragon quest 9 launches on ds in 2009 when ds has sold more than 25mln consoles while i can understand a big boost in sales....i dont see it as a system seller since the series has been released when platforms had already been old and had already sold the majority of their life-time sales................ |
Right, and MH2G was released for the PSP in 2008 when the PSP had already sold 10 mln consoles (majority of its life-time sales) and it was definitly a system seller.
So yes we can affirm that DQ is a system seller.
@Soriku: Oh yeah forgot about SW3. That's definitely going to move consoles.
Look, WSR could go either way. I'm sure it will sell A LOT, but after Wii Music I'm doubtful. It will most probably sell a lot though.
Tales of Ten can also go either way, saying this because Tales of Heart performance on the DS, it was a mothership title but didnt sell as good as it should.
MH3 obviously is going to sell a crapload UNLESS Capcom announces tht MHP3 is coming, since there will be no need for MH fans to buy a Wii in order to play it.
FFCC:CB the previous games weren't that big. I doubt it will shift a lot of consoles.
The rest are new IPs from small devs, and they could build up a nice fanbase, but I don't think they will move consoles.
As for Zelda and Mario, of course, they are going to move consoles, but not as much as DQX or MH3 since they have already been released on the Wii and the fanbase is there.
The rest of the small IPs from the Nintendo conference are a good constant flow of games, although they will not give boost up the Wii significantly, let alone sell any significant amount of copies.
The Level 5 RPG's aren't confirmed are they?
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Pandora's Tower will have an opening week of less than 37k in Japan. (Won!)
Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
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I agree with Soriku.
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