Remaking the thread after sorting some problems. So when does everything think this will happen?

late 2011 or late 2012, i doubt it will be before August 2011 or later than December 2012, just a feeling i have

november in 2011, because the 360 is still doing well in hardware sales and software sales, also the economy is going to make them wait as long as they can to release the next xbox.

2011 sometime

2010 2011 or 2012

Hmm I think it will be 2012 earliest. Why do you guys say 2011? I think the economy and such just makes it very hard to do it earlier then later.

releasing 1st has in part helped MS pip Sony this gen, so they will probs adopt a similar strategy next gen, i expect a PS4 in 2012 or 2013, and a Wii 2 in 2011 or 2012

Pretty sure they're making it right now...

I'll never let go DVD! I'll never let go! Sony will be the one "pip"ing when the 720 needs to use Bluray.

Yes, and how many times have companies done something right the same way twice? More often they will fuck up twice. I think PS4 will be first TBH.