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I didn't know the 360/PS3 had pin point accurate controls on FPS games I had no idea it could be that quick and precise.

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RedHarvest said:

Obviously leaving out games that are built for the controller (Wii Sports, Play, Music, Fit), Nintendo's hardcore franchises on the Wii would be exponentially better on the PS360.

Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Animal Crossing, Brawl and Mario Kart could have been truly incredible with HD visuals, better online component if applicable, downloadable content and achievements/trophies as they barely utilise the Wii's strong point. They would be better on HD consoles, that's an unarguable fact. 

When I think about it like this, I really wish Nintendo hadn't taken the easy option and instead produced a powerful console similar to the PS360.

Not on my TV they wouldn't.

And that's a pretty important point.

 

 



hatmoza 2.0 said:
O-D-C said:
well Ill argue.

Graphics arent everything, theirs a reason Id rather play NES games then GTA IV or Gears Of Wars, its called gameplay, Iv never cared for graphics in games, I know we all dont share that sentiment but hey.

Online is fine for games like Mario Kart, it has everything it could need, Galaxy and Twilight well I dont see how online could be applied here.

DLC its on Wii, just less, it will come. Look at Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles: My Life As A King, big DLC is coming to Wii

Achecivments / trophys. Is this really that great? seems to me it can just be implemented in a game if they really want to (Mega Man 9)

their, I argued your unarguable fact.

Quoted for truth

 

The argument is a fallacy because the games would be better simply because those additional features are there. No matter how much you all claim to not care about graphics, you would not buy a new $60 game for your Wii that had NES graphics. Brawl would be an infinitely better game with an online system that actually works, achievements would add to every game even if you don't like them. DLC for games would make them better: new dungeons for Zelda? New levels for Mario? New characters for Brawl? New tracks for MK:Wii? Done.

You can pretend you don't care about this stuff all you want, but the games would be better. How could they not be?

 



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Mario Kart - NO WAY

Mario Galaxy - NO

Metroid Prime 3 - NO WAY

Zelda Twilight Princess - NO


so, this thread fails, you can keep your HD graphics, Wii don't care (we do but not thaaaaat much)



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I'm happy Nintendo decided to take the non-hd route because: the console was cheaper, the games are cheaper and Nintendo could release most of their important franchises in the first year because the development cycle and costs are lower.

I would be happy to have a Mario Kart Wii with GT5 graphics but rather not have them if I have to wait forever for the game to come out.



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famousringo said:
Microsoft and Sony should get on that, then.

Indeed. *smokes bubble pipe*

 

 



Impulsivity said:
I don't see why everyone keeps conflating the Wii's new controller with no HD graphics. It just doesn't make sense.

The Wii could very easily have a better processor and GPU, even if slightly below the PS3/360 (IE where the gamecube was last generation) and STILL HAD THE WIIMOTE. The Wiimote does not require 2001 graphics to function. It would still function quite well if attached to a machine that did not max out at 480p.

If you are going to argue for the Wii argue the merits in question here which are graphics not controllers. The Wii with better graphics and the SAME CONTROLLER would right now have Resident Evil 5 and a host of other HD games in their full versions (unlike the horrid dumbed down chop til you drop which took a near classic down to a pseudo joke game).

The Wii games would have been better on a Wii that had a real upgrade to next gen graphics.

Why would it get those ports? The gamecube had similar specs as the xbox, and greater specs than the PS2, but did not recieve ports last generation...........why would it change this time?



It's not just the bow in Zelda that uses the IR pointing. If you've played the game, you might also remember the slingshot, the boomerang, and the clawshot. And let's not forget the motion controls you use to swing your sword, do a spin attack, and hit someone with your shield to stun them. That would require 3 more button presses, or even worse, pressing more than 1 button at once, or entering multiple buttons in a combo. That would break the game.

If you're so jealous for Zelda, buy a Wii. And if I get jealous for some HD games, I'll buy an HD system. But arguing that Nintendo-developed games aren't best-suited for Nintendo-designed consoles is not a good argument. Nintendo makes their software for their hardware and their software for their hardware. That's one of many reasons why they're the most successful.



Godot said:
I'm happy Nintendo decided to take the non-hd route because: the console was cheaper, the games are cheaper and Nintendo could release most of their important franchises in the first year because the development cycle and costs are lower.

I would be happy to have a Mario Kart Wii with GT5 graphics but rather not have them if I have to wait forever for the game to come out.

 

   The games are just artificially inflated to 60 bucks, PC games have better graphcis then anythign on the HD consoles and are 50 still. 

   As to the Wii being cheap from the graphics, its not really that cheap nor was it that cheap at release (and not including a hard drive and other things which drive up the PS3 price wouldn't have to change).

  As I recall the 250 Wii was released and competed with an already 300 dollar 360 base model.  Nintendo could easily have hit a 300 dollar price point while getting better graphics in there.  Also it is not the cheapest console now, the 360 has gotten down to 200 now, so the Wii could almost certainly be selling for 250, making money, and have graphics which don't look so dated.

   Wii games wouldn't need GT5 graphics, they would be fine with Ratchet and Clank graphics.  That game strikes a good balance between looking good and being expedient enough to hit a release schedule.  I picture games on the Wii of mid PS3 quality that would be heads and tails above whats on the Wii now but still not so outlandish they have 5 year production times.




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izaaz101 said:
Impulsivity said:
I don't see why everyone keeps conflating the Wii's new controller with no HD graphics. It just doesn't make sense.

The Wii could very easily have a better processor and GPU, even if slightly below the PS3/360 (IE where the gamecube was last generation) and STILL HAD THE WIIMOTE. The Wiimote does not require 2001 graphics to function. It would still function quite well if attached to a machine that did not max out at 480p.

If you are going to argue for the Wii argue the merits in question here which are graphics not controllers. The Wii with better graphics and the SAME CONTROLLER would right now have Resident Evil 5 and a host of other HD games in their full versions (unlike the horrid dumbed down chop til you drop which took a near classic down to a pseudo joke game).

The Wii games would have been better on a Wii that had a real upgrade to next gen graphics.

Why would it get those ports? The gamecube had similar specs as the xbox, and greater specs than the PS2, but did not recieve ports last generation...........why would it change this time?

 

   It didn't get the ports from the PS2 because they PS2 had so much of a sales advantage there was no point.  The Xbox didn't get a whole lot of ports either.  The Wii's sales would get them games like RE5 and the like easily if it was feasable to port such games without reworking them from the ground up with worse graphics and severe limitations (like with Dead Rising).

   It would be more like SNES getting genesis ports (which it did) vs the Gamecube not getting PS2 ports (since there was really no point).

   Oh and Nintendo shot themselves in the foot with the gamecube just like with the N64 when they went for some strange deviant media to put stuff on.  If they had gone with a DVD (without the size restrictions of the mini gamecube disk) that would have gone a long way to getting the games that were not ported to the Wii but only to the similar selling xbox.




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